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To: nickcarraway

Strange that Israel can’t launch their own offensive without money, munitions, or input from the U.S.


2 posted on 05/10/2024 4:25:36 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Biden is NOT making these decisions this IS 1000% Obama, if ANYONE ever doubted who the hell is running this country these decisions are your proof!! Obama is an America, Israel HATING MUSLIM!! We ALL have known this since day one when this BASTARD stepped on the scene from out of nowhere!! Reverend Wright was all the confirmation anyone would have needed!!


3 posted on 05/10/2024 4:30:45 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It's pretty tough to be a country of less than 10 million, surrounded by more than a billion enemies.

Plus, they get to do a lot of things the U.S. needs to do, but it would be a lot harder for us, like take out Iranian nukes.

5 posted on 05/10/2024 4:32:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

IDF has enough weapons now. The question is if they expend too much in Gaza will there be any to fight off a potential Hezbollah attack?


12 posted on 05/10/2024 4:41:57 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

IMHO, nations like Israel depend on the US war industrial base.

Unfortunately for them, that makes US politicians have influence over them.

Some of these weapon systems are complex and a small nation of 9,000,000 people can’t realistically afford or have the broad tech and industrial capabilities to build all of these things.

Think of it like this, Israel is like the state of New Jersey, that’s it. Would that state if it’s own nation really have the ability to build all these different and complex weapons systems, in mass?

Israel does well, and they have a big domestic military industrial base given their size, but they are largely dependent on us.

FYI- By withholding weapons from Israel we are violating an agreement with them. Once again we just do whatever we want because there is no one to hold us accountable, no real near peer competitor. And because the MSM is pro-Democrat, they don’t roast him in this issue.

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel/


27 posted on 05/10/2024 4:59:10 PM PDT by Red6
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Strange that Israel can’t launch their own offensive without money, munitions, or input from the U.S.

They can and they will.

It might be for the best. Without Biden and Blinken and the rest of the retards in this administration trying to hamstring them, they'll be free to do in Gaza as they please.

The protestors will really have something to cry about.

42 posted on 05/10/2024 6:14:09 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What is happening is Biden is playing with words based on a reality that is not mentioned.

The weapons are cut off in the event of a specified assault on Rafah that never will occur, The method of assault on Rafah is not up to that specified by the Biden order.


58 posted on 05/11/2024 5:13:45 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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Not even most our bigger allies have the war industrial base to “go it alone,” i.e. Germany, UK, France...

And these are nations with 50+ million people, in Germany's case 80+ million. These are bigger industrial economies (where the industrial revolution started), high tech nations.

Thinking Israel can develop and build their own modern fighters, missile systems, guided bombs, command and control systems, missile defense systems, from the ground up, is a far-far stretch. Even the stuff that is “Israeli” and everyone associates with them, usually is packed with US defense contractors (Raytheon, LM, Boeing, General Dynamics, Northrup Grumman) working with them, or US sourced components, i.e. Arrow missile, Iron Dome, Trophy self defense system... Example: https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we-do/advanced-technology-and-innovation/the-brains-behind-military-electronics-custom-asic-chips

For Israel, there is no way around it, they will be dependent on foreign sourced military hardware.

However, what lesson should be learned from this is that they need to ensure to manage risk by sourcing some military hardware from Russia and China. Most EU nations are basically going to be the same problem as being solely dependent on us and that poses a risk today.

Historically, since the US and Israel pretty much lined up in interests 100%, and it was unimaginable that we abandon them, being solely dependent on us made sense.

However, what has happened under the Biden administration speaks for itself. It's what the topic of this thread is about!

61 posted on 05/11/2024 2:12:15 PM PDT by Red6
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