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The intermittency of wind and solar power could be worse than originally thought, experts say
Just the News ^ | May 2, 2024 | Kevin Killough

Posted on 05/03/2024 7:37:50 AM PDT by george76

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1 posted on 05/03/2024 7:37:50 AM PDT by george76
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In principle, I have no problem with solar or wind power to try and make them work, so they have a place in energy generation. Having said that, I want honesty so they can be placed where they work and not where they don’t work.


2 posted on 05/03/2024 7:41:35 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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3 posted on 05/03/2024 7:43:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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The RATs are going to keep screwing around with our power plants and they’ll have to start putting up their wind farms on Capitol Hill so they can catch the breeze coming from the wind bags in Congress.


4 posted on 05/03/2024 7:43:49 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Weird how the invading hordes of illegal foreign deadbeats didn't start until FJB took the throne.)
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It doesn’t take genius to figure out that the wind doesn’t always blow and the sun doesn’ alway shine. But coal, wood and natural gas always burn.


5 posted on 05/03/2024 7:44:28 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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Originally thought by whom?


6 posted on 05/03/2024 7:45:27 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DouglasKC

And what about nuclear?

I know the Liberals are against nuclear power. But nuclear produces zero of the dreaded greenhouse gases. So based on the liberals own criteria, of avoiding emissions , nuclear should be something that they would approve of


7 posted on 05/03/2024 7:46:31 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Liberals are deliberately clueless. They will probably blame the intermittent wind problem on Climate Change. So let’s pour even more billions of dollars into fighting that nonexistent problem.


8 posted on 05/03/2024 7:46:44 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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"Orr and Rolling, who are policy fellows for the Center of the American Experiment..."

Samuel L. Jackson says "Check out the big brains on those guys!" *

* G-rated version

9 posted on 05/03/2024 7:54:12 AM PDT by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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I know the Liberals are against nuclear power. But nuclear produces zero of the dreaded greenhouse gases. So based on the liberals own criteria, of avoiding emissions , nuclear should be something that they would approve of

I think they're coming around on that. Oliver Stone recently put out a documentary called "Nuclear Now". I didn't see any overt liberal reason....except to fight Climate change. But mostly it seemed to be a realization that the antinuclearpower movemen was complete scam.

10 posted on 05/03/2024 8:21:10 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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Butt, butt, butt.........


11 posted on 05/03/2024 8:47:14 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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Germany puts out very complete data in graphs showing its daily (IIRC maybe even hourly) energy consumption by type. I followed it a few winters ago. Not pretty.


12 posted on 05/03/2024 8:54:19 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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“ In principle, I have no problem with solar or wind power to try and make them work, so they have a place in energy generation. Having said that, I want honesty so they can be placed where they work and not where they don’t work.”
The dirty little secret is that green energy is a huge scam. I have seen solar used effectively in places where it’s economically infeasible to use commercial power. One very effective use of solar is to power cathodic protection rectifiers on cross country pipelines.
Most of the large solar arrays and wind farms are being subsidized by the government. Once the subsidies end, there will be a significant jump in electricity prices.


13 posted on 05/03/2024 9:03:26 AM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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Solar only seems to work on rooftops, very localized, and wind power seems useful to me as a means to charge an electric generator and not as a means of power in itself.

I read about a company that uses solar power to pump liquid up a hill. Then, at night, the liquid falls down the hill to generate electricity.

I think wind power is only useful as a passive generator of power for electric generators. Put a couple on the farm and use them once a month or so. Save yourself a months worth of electricity over the year.


14 posted on 05/03/2024 9:19:43 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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Good post


15 posted on 05/03/2024 9:20:45 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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It’s not just the low wind extreme that’s worthless. Loads of wind energy over the plains with all those tornadoes last weekend. But the windmills can’t collect any of that!


16 posted on 05/03/2024 9:22:53 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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There is a small city beside my city named Spruce Grove.
I can only guess that the topography around the city forms a funnel into the city, because it could be blowing 1 mph to the east of the city but it blows through the city at 50 mph. It seems a good candidate to put up a few windmills around town.


17 posted on 05/03/2024 9:31:52 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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“Once the subsidies end, there will be a significant jump in electricity prices.”

But our taxes will be lowered, correct?


18 posted on 05/03/2024 9:41:49 AM PDT by cymbeline (we saw men break out of a concentration camp.”)
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Power should come from a mixture of the most efficient methods throughout the day. This could include solar, battery, traditional power plants, and I guess, some wind.

Anyone thinking that one single source is going to get the job done doesn’t understand how much demand fluctuates during a day.


19 posted on 05/03/2024 10:03:17 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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X gigawatts of capacity is a theoretical number good if the wind blows consistently always and no clouds ever cover the sun. Reality is no consistency and actuality is much less than capacity. Intermittency is the rule and toxic pollution is immense when windmills collapse and solar cells wear out. But at least a lot of those pesky whales and raptors get exterminated.


20 posted on 05/03/2024 10:33:22 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe Bk)
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