BEFORE THE WAR
Posted on 04/21/2024 10:54:19 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said on this week’s broadcast on “Fox News Sunday” that Speaker Mike Johnson’s (R-LA) aid package that included for Ukraine would not have passed the House without help from former President Donald Trump.
Graham said, “The Ukrainian military, with our help, has killed about 50% of the combat power of the Russians. This is the year of more. They’re going to have more weapons, but we also want them to have new weapons, ATACMS to knock the bride down between Crimea and Russia. They are going to have F-16s. So, this idea give up on Ukraine makes the world safer, if you pull the plug on Ukraine cause you don’t have enough capability. There goes Taiwan.”
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People love to use the FDR analogy of lending your neighbor your garden hose to put out the fire at their house, before it spreads to yours.
Abortion, border, Ukraine, what's next?
No, nothing will get paid back. Next, they will be calling for us to pay to rebuild Ukraine.
He probably survives by base vote splitting in the primary’s. The GOPe always makes sure there are at least 2 others to split the vote so Linda wins
Assault weapons.
I think Trump 'helped' get 23 billion of the 'Ukrainian Aid' package to resupply American military stockpiles and convinced them to make the 14 Billion in advanced new weapon systems funding benefit the US by purchasing from US defense contractors, and he suggested previously that the military aid to the Ukraine a loan instead of outright gift.Note the article, and the Dems are phrasing the resupply of the American military as 'opening the door to more transfers to the Ukraine' because hey, Dems are not just gonna supply our own military after giving as much as we did to the Ukraine.
But really, this package gives 23B to resupply our military, 14B to our US defense contractors, and 11B to US military operations in Ukraine, with 8B going to Ukraine's basic operations (salaries, pensions, emergency services and a pile of domestic aid to keep the semblance of civilization).
Yang Tian and agenciesSat 20 Apr 2024 22.33 EDT"In the Ukraine bill, of the $60.7bn, a total of about $23bn would be used by the US to replenish its military stockpiles, opening the door to future US military transfers to Ukraine. Another $14bn would go to the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, in which the Pentagon buys advanced new weapon systems for the Ukrainian military directly from US defence contractors.
There is also more than $11bn to fund current US military operations in the region, enhancing the capabilities of the Ukrainian military and fostering intelligence collaboration between Kyiv and Washington; and about $8bn in non-military assistance, such as helping Ukraine’s government continue basic operations, including the payment of salaries and pensions."
Maybe Trump supported it.
Maybe Trump didn’t.
Fact is Trump carries little or no weight inside the beltway or the halls of congress.
Trump’s first term proved that.
If Trump had support within the Republican wing of the Uniparty of which is led in part by Goober Grahamnesty then a wall would have been built.
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Trump needs to split with Lindsey permanently and decisively.
Assuming there is anything left of Ukraine after this war is over, here’s how the rebuilding will go.
Ukraine will get massive loans from the IMF and World Bank, that money originally came from US taxpayers thru the IMF and World Bank to Ukraine.
Ukraine will take the loan money, siphon off a few billion for payouts to the politicians in the US and Ukraine, the rest will go to companies like Black Rock who will oversee the rebuild thru their network of friends.
Shut up Linda. Nobody cares about what you say.
Why do I get the feeling this won’t actually help Ukraine one iota, but will only make more politicians rich?
“People love to use the FDR analogy of lending your neighbor your garden hose to put out the fire at their house, before it spreads to yours.”
We Must Fight Them Over There So We Don’t Have to Fight Them Over Here:
Matt Purple
Jan 15, 2021
I’ve been thinking a lot lately about language. Given that I’m a writer, that’s no more unusual than a carpenter mulling his tools or an electrician daydreaming about copper wiring. But in the wake of the riots at the Capitol, it seems like a good time to reexamine some of the staples of our political vocabulary. I argued yesterday that the right should take fresh looks at the terms “radical chic,” preferably in front of a mirror, and “establishment,” so devalued it barely has a definition.
Now let’s consider an even more worthless cliché: “we must fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here.” This brain injury-inducing line has been a fixture of neoconservative argument since 9/11. It means exactly what it says: if we don’t kill Islamic terrorists in their own countries, we’ll wake up later this week and find them standing on the veranda, fingers perched menacingly over detonation buttons. One day, I imagine Lindsey Graham retiring from the Senate and opening up a little country store with framed samplers for sale embroidered with that maxim.
Except now the “over there” has become the “over here.” A mob of our own countrymen has pulled off what all the Salafists and Wahhabists from the Bosphorus to Bangladesh never could: an infiltration of the very cradle of American power (not the Pentagon, but you know what I mean). According to the Costs of War project, we’ve spent $6.4 trillion on the war on terror since 2001, a number that includes the projected price tag of caring for our many veterans who have come home bleeding and broken. We’ve wrecked Iraq, kept Afghanistan in a violent stasis, expanded the bombing across Northern Africa. We’ve learned to loathe the strange black flag of jihad, only for the most traumatizing attack since 9/11 to come flying the stars and stripes. That isn’t just a bitter irony; it calls into question 20 years worth of policy. We’ve fought them over there, only to miss something very dark brewing over here.
Yes, this is the usual trick. Linda and his donors convince a bunch of vain people to run and split the conservative vote.
The only way he gets out of office is if Republicans vote for the Democrat just that one time. But that’s asking a lot and I don’t think most Republicans are willing to, even as he embarrasses SC for decades.
Graham and Hillary are like old sciatic nerve pain that you just can’t seem to get out of your life. Returning at any moment to cause misery.
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The Fat Cats never ever see the next crisis.
Did Senators Obama and Biden see the Wall Street bailout they called the Great Recession? From Fannie and Freddie Loans.
The Debt is going to crush this country like a slow bug.
Oh brother...go see a movie and calm down.
Trump needs to split with Lindsey permanently and decisively.“
You are absolutely right. This is just insulting and it shows the cynical contempt this little weasel has for the base. He thinks saying this will drive a wedge between the base and Trump. He thinks we are that easily manipulated. I loath the little punk.
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