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What everyone can learn from the woman who lost $50,000 to a scam
MSN ^ | 2/17/24 | Heather Kelly

Posted on 02/18/2024 2:23:09 PM PST by nickcarraway

Everyone thinks they’re too smart to fall for a scam until it happens to them.

Today, you might be making fun of the financial-advice writer who went viral for putting $50,000 in cash in a box and handing it to a stranger. Tomorrow, you or someone you love could be falling for a less dramatic scam. In her article for New York Magazine’s the Cut, journalist Charlotte Cowles describes in detail how she fell for an elaborate scam that used fear, technology and her data to convince her it was real. A caller posed as someone from Amazon, then transferred her to someone posing as a Federal Trade Commission liaison, then someone claiming to be from the CIA and finally the scammers convinced her to withdraw cash and hand it over to a stranger outside her home.

The end result sounds wild on its own, but broken down step by step the scam did include the kinds of convincing details that frequently trick people. Here’s what we can all learn from this scam.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: charlottecowles; heatherkelly; scammers
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To: CFW

“I don’t know, but something seems a bit off to me.”

She might be trying to cover up the real reason she withdrew $50k from the bank.


21 posted on 02/18/2024 3:02:59 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: abigkahuna

You could always play the audio from a Joe Biden speech!


22 posted on 02/18/2024 3:03:26 PM PST by Cold_Red_Steel
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To: kiryandil

Installed a Ring doorbell before winter and my wife loves it because you can see who is there and choose whether or not to answer it or not. We live in Iowa and we were getting lots of canvassers wanting to push their particular candidate.


23 posted on 02/18/2024 3:04:59 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Liz

My son says “ I live in a tent in the middle of a field”. Works like a champ.


24 posted on 02/18/2024 3:05:13 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: kiryandil
Rule #1: there is no law that says you have to answer your phone.

As children, the majority Americans born in the 1920 and 30s did not have telephones in their homes. Strangers might come to one's door, but they needed to do so formally and respectfully - especially if selling something.

After WWII, telephone adoption obviated the need for personal interaction, but the cultural norms of respect and proper behavior when presenting oneself at someone's home continued - for a while, at least.

My parents (and most Americans) would answer every telephone call, and treat the caller respectfully, expecting similar good faith.

By the end of their lives several years ago, my parents finally learned to hang-up on marketers, foreign voices, potential scammers and all kinds of "disrespectful visitors"

Now most young people simply do not answer their phones.

We have thus seen a full life-cycle of this communications format - and destruction of a social norm.

25 posted on 02/18/2024 3:10:36 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Gaffer
NO legitimate government-related agency is going to call you on the phone in a demand for money, period.

LOL. If its Fed.gov and you have done something needing their attention worth $50K, they show up at 6AM with an armada of vehicles, and kick in your door and windows.

THAT's how you will now know Government wants something from you.

26 posted on 02/18/2024 3:13:29 PM PST by PGR88
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To: abigkahuna

Interesting. If I don’t see a name or recognize a number I don’t answer. If it’s legit, they can leave a voice mail.


27 posted on 02/18/2024 3:14:25 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: tiki

We are so far out in the boonies that if someone is at our house it means they are lost—at least ten miles out of their way.

Lol.

(True story—years ago a young attractive very polite black woman—all dressed up including high heels—stopped at the end of the driveway and asked for directions. She was terrified—had not seen any signs for anything for miles. She was going to a wedding fifteen miles away.

I don’t think she had ever been to such a rural area in her life.)


28 posted on 02/18/2024 3:16:20 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: abigkahuna
I let them go through their bit, and I say: “I’m sorry, can you repeat that?”

LOL. It made me think of Grandpa Simpson Story About Onions

29 posted on 02/18/2024 3:19:58 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Indeed. Especially if you aren’t a Democrat.


30 posted on 02/18/2024 3:21:38 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: kiryandil

Back when my grand daughters were very little and just started talking, I used to hand the phone to them whenever I got a nuisance call from a telemarketer or scammer..


31 posted on 02/18/2024 3:23:08 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: PGR88

“My parents (and most Americans) would answer every telephone call, and treat the caller respectfully, expecting similar good faith.”

My mom does this (she’s 99), and she’s exceedingly polite to every caller, no matter how many goofy calls she gets every day. We’ve trained her to NOT engage, though, and she’ll politely end the call


32 posted on 02/18/2024 3:30:35 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Some young blond comes up to you and starts chatting you up in a room full of younger and better looking people? You're the mark.

Killjoy.

33 posted on 02/18/2024 3:55:27 PM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: PGR88

When I grew up in the 1950s-60s, the phone didn’t ring very often. It was kind of an ‘occasion’ when it did; and was almost always a relative or other expected call.

My phone still almost never rings.


34 posted on 02/18/2024 4:02:00 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: IYAS9YAS

If you have to ask who is the mark, it is you.


35 posted on 02/18/2024 4:05:07 PM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: kiryandil

Wow - don’t tell me it was a scam? I can hardly believe it ... A nice looking gal like that ...


36 posted on 02/18/2024 4:13:27 PM PST by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Gaffer
I always look before opening it but I answer the door with my right hand opening it. In my unseen left hand is my Glock 19.

I do the same thing, except my weapon is in my right hand.

37 posted on 02/18/2024 4:17:55 PM PST by gitmo (If your biography doesn't match your theology, what good is it?)
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To: kiryandil

Interesting read, what i got through before being bored. Good story about an idiot physicist , self absorbed, and no common sense.

But you can trust the science 🧬…..


38 posted on 02/18/2024 4:18:14 PM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: PLMerite

“She might be trying to cover up the real reason she withdrew $50k from the bank.”


That’s actually a good possibility. If so, she has to play the part of the dupe to the end. No matter how foolish she looks.


39 posted on 02/18/2024 4:18:41 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: kiryandil

I have three ringtones for my phone.

My family or very close friends and if I hear that I know to answer it, if at all possible. At the very least, I check to see who is calling.

The other is for my general contact list. So if that goes off, I check and see who it is first to decide if I want to answer it.

The third is the carrier’s default ringtone and when I hear that, I just ignore it and figure if it’s important, they’ll leave a message. And on rare occasion they do.

But under no circumstances will I answer it from an 800 number or some oddball area code.


40 posted on 02/18/2024 4:33:06 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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