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Hochul tells NY businesses not to fear about Trump verdict: ‘Nothing to worry about’
TheHill ^ | 02/18/2024

Posted on 02/18/2024 5:45:14 AM PST by devane617

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) addressed New York business owners in a new interview and told them there was “nothing to worry about” after former President Trump was hit with a $355 million fine and the inability to conduct business in New York for three years.

Hochul joined John Catsimatidis on “The Cats Roundtable” on WABC 770 AM where she was asked if other New York businesspeople should be worried that if “they can do that to the former president, they can do that to anybody.”

“I think that this is really an extraordinary unusual circumstance that the law-abiding and rule-following New Yorkers who are business people have nothing to worry about because they’re very different than Donald Trump and his behavior,” Hochul responded.

A New York judge on Friday ordered Trump to pay the massive sum in penalties in a civil fraud case. The decision came just weeks after closing arguments wrapped up a months-long trial after New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) sued Trump for alleging he falsely altered his net worth to receive tax and insurance benefits.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: billofattainder; corruption; democratmaximus; hochul; joesdemocrats; newyork; newyoure; nyc
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To: Political Junkie Too; joesbucks
Why do you [joesbucks] have a problem with [Republican and conservative] Americans taking advantage of their due process rights?

fixed it for you.

Because he's playing for the other team.

Same reason that he's constantly bashing on any effective Republican/conservative, but has nary a word of criticism for the likes of Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, the Bidens, Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.

He's literally "the dog that doesn't bark" at any Uniparty stooge.

541 posted on 03/19/2024 8:58:16 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: joesbucks
He did it right from the start when he declared some records to be Presidential and others to be personal.

He did it with the expectation based on what prior Presidents did.

People's due process rights don't begin and end, they are inherent and exist perpetually with the expectation that they are acting lawfully. People only invoke them when they are questioned.

-PJ

542 posted on 03/19/2024 9:06:29 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

I can’t find where he started making those claims until long after the first requests. In 2022 earliest. Archives made the request in 2021. I agree that people have rights. And should exercise them. But if the library asks me to return a book, I do. Or if I disagree the book needs returned, I pushback. If Trump believes they were overstepping their boundaries, it doesn’t appear he did much about it prior to FBI involvement. Could be wrong but it appears he just ignored the Archives and their requests. I can’t find anything that has him doing that. Even after a long period of time (7 months) he finally partially complies. But in that partial compliance, I can’t find where he was asserting they were his and his alone. Then through legal representation, he asserted he had totally complied. His positions on this seem to form shift more than a science fiction character.


543 posted on 03/19/2024 9:48:35 AM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: Political Junkie Too

He has no intention of arguing honorably with you. He will concede no proven point; he will twist anything he can; he will support any media misdirection.

His only intention is to throw shade at any conservative mentioned here. He’s a liberal Democrat who’s sole goal is to troll conservatives and cause dissension on the forum.


544 posted on 03/19/2024 9:56:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed.)
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To: Lazamataz; Political Junkie Too
He has no intention of arguing honorably with you. He will concede no proven point; he will twist anything he can; he will support any media misdirection.

Exhibit 1 [December 2005]:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1547590/posts?page=54#54

Exhibit 2 [February 2018]:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3631315/posts?page=29#29

545 posted on 03/19/2024 10:02:29 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: kiryandil; joesbucks
I see what you mean, at first I did not.

He acknowledges a divorce, then later lies and says he's never had a divorce... “joesbucks” holding himself as superior to Trump.

joesbucks will say anything, claim anything, lie, whatever it takes to disparage a conservative.

He really needs to be banned as a troll.

546 posted on 03/19/2024 10:08:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed.)
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To: Lazamataz

Funny. But she did come back.


547 posted on 03/19/2024 10:39:27 AM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks; Lazamataz; Political Junkie Too
Funny. But she did come back.

And if you don't believe joesbucks about this - just ask him, he'll tell you...  

548 posted on 03/19/2024 10:45:33 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: joesbucks

I won’t bother to go down your twisted rabbit holes. It’s deflection, intended to take the focus off your clear role as a troll, a troll who disparages any and all conservatives.... now to include Donald J. Trump.

....and this, on a conservative forum.

My only desire is to see you dissociated with the forum by any means necessary.


549 posted on 03/19/2024 10:55:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed.)
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To: Lazamataz; kiryandil; joesbucks
If you say joesbucks hates conservatives, he will say "I don't hate TRUE conservatives."

No True Scotsman logical fallacy

550 posted on 03/19/2024 11:56:23 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
It's like trying to nail Jello to a wall.

joesbucks the Jello Boy just drops down and reforms himself elsewhere, using a different argument.

551 posted on 03/19/2024 11:59:41 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: kiryandil; joesbucks; landshark; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Political Junkie Too; woodpusher
joesbucks the Jello Boy just drops down and reforms himself elsewhere, using a different argument.

....Just as he seems to be dropping down here.

So maybe we form a Permanent Floating Joesbucks Removal Club*? Point him out his anticonservative rantings wherever we see him post them, encouraging the moderators to finally take this leftist off the forum?

* Named but not modeled after the Permanent Floating Riot Club, authored by Larry Niven

552 posted on 03/19/2024 12:15:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed. We are so screwed.)
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To: devane617

She basically is admitting that this was a personal prosecution violating PDJT’s rights under color of law


553 posted on 03/19/2024 12:16:22 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: Lazamataz
* I thought you were referencing The Oldest Established Permanent Floating Crap Game.

See my parody song The Oldest Established, Permanent Floating Crap Game In DC.

-PJ

554 posted on 03/19/2024 4:17:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: kiryandil
ICYMI.

https://www.change.org/p/urge-chief-juvenile-officer-rick-gaines-to-consider-maurnice-declue-s-case-with-compassion

Urge Chief Juvenile Officer Rick Gaines to Consider Maurnice Declue's Case with Compassion

Started by
Alafia Olúwaforíjìmí

This petition is about a young girl named Maurnice DeClue, a 15-year-old honor roll student at Hazelwood East High School in St. Louis County, MO. She is multilingual, speaking four languages including Spanish and Korean, plays the violin in the school orchestra, played on her school’s volleyball team and was recently selected for college-level AP classes due to her academic excellence. Prior to an incident on March 8th where she was seen defending herself from harassment and bullying, she had never been in trouble. Her work as a scholar was tainted by the bullying she had to endure at school.

[snip]

https://twitter.com/LStark711/status/1767400913960931351

555 posted on 03/20/2024 10:12:08 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: kiryandil; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

A Scotsman walks into the pub and soon a fly lands in his pint of McEwan’s and takes a sip. The Scotsman snatches the fly by the throat and holds it over the pint saying “Gee it up, gee it up” until the fly gives back the ale. That’s disgorgement.


556 posted on 03/20/2024 10:22:13 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher
Prior to an incident on March 8th where she was seen defending herself from harassment and bullying

We've seen similar word-crafting from Democrat operatives on this very forum.  

557 posted on 03/20/2024 10:44:59 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: woodpusher; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

After the disgorgement, a true Scotsman would have made the fly pay for the part of the ale that moistened his beak.


558 posted on 03/20/2024 10:46:46 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: joesbucks; Political Junkie Too
He was asked by the National Archives beginning in May of 2021 to return the docs. It’s after being ignored that in June they notified Trump that they will refer the matter to the justice department if there is no compliance.

If the President classified a document as Personal and the Archivist classifies it as Presidential, from where does the Archivist obtain the authority to classify a document as either Personal or Presidential, or to overrule the President?

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.407.0.pdf

With respect to the proposed language pertinent to the issue of “unauthorized possession” specifically, the parties must engage with the following competing scenarios and offer alternative draft text that assumes each scenario to be a correct formulation of the law to be issued to the jury, while reserving counterarguments.

(a) In a prosecution of a former president for allegedly retaining documents in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 793(e), a jury is permitted to examine a record retained by a former president in his/her personal possession at the end of his/her presidency and make a factual finding as to whether the government has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it is personal or presidential using the definitions set forth in the Presidential Records Act (PRA).3

(b) A president has sole authority under the PRA to categorize records as personal or presidential during his/her presidency. Neither a court nor a jury is permitted to make or review such a categorization decision. Although there is no formal means in the PRA by which a president is to make that categorization, an outgoing president’s decision to exclude what he/she considers to be personal records from presidential records transmitted to the National Archives and Records Administration constitutes a president’s categorization of those records as personal under the PRA.

Either (a) the jury has to see the document to make a finding of fact beyond a resonable doubt that it is Personal or Presidential, or (b) A president has sole authority under the PRA to categorize records as personal or presidential during his/her presidency. Neither a court nor a jury is permitted to make or review such a categorization decision.

Judge Aileen Cannon, March 18, 2024.

559 posted on 03/20/2024 10:49:21 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher

And in HORRIBLE news for Democrat Party stooges on FR [of whom there are less, quite recently], the jury isn’t a New Jerk sChitty Democrat jury or a Democrat jury in the District of Selective Prosecution of The Republican Enemy.


560 posted on 03/20/2024 11:32:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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