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Government Bureaucrats Could Use 'Kill Switch' to Stop People From Driving Because... Reasons
Red State ^ | 2/17/24 | Wes Clark

Posted on 02/17/2024 1:13:50 PM PST by CFW

A provision in the 2021 "infrastructure" spending package, as it turns out, includes a provision that directs the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to come up with a way to stop you from driving your car or truck if the government doesn't want you to. The measure is sold as a way to keep people from driving while impaired, but the implications are chilling.

"A provision in the bipartisan $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill that President Joe Biden signed in 2021 directed the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to come up with a rule by this year requiring new cars to have “advanced drunk and impaired driving prevention technology.”

The law describes this tech as being able to “passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle” and “prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected.”

Critics immediately raised privacy, cost, and reliability concerns any such “monitoring” system would raise, only to be reassured by the mainstream press that this was much ado about nothing. The provision was meant only to keep drunk drivers off the road."

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automobiles; dictators; drivers; driving; government; killswitch; nhtsa; vehicles
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I evidently have onstage. It is working.

I never signed up for it.

Like all the ez passes that were about traffic but are actually about tracking.


21 posted on 02/17/2024 1:41:24 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: CFW

Imagine America in a major war with China where the ChiComs hack into our Stasi kill switch for every car in the nation and shut down everything. That is the stupidity of this control freak idea and our garbage establishment.


22 posted on 02/17/2024 1:42:32 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: CFW

Betcha liberals with electric cars are regretting it now.


23 posted on 02/17/2024 1:44:19 PM PST by InsidiousMongo
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To: LeoTDB69

Do some research on the death of Andrew Breitbart. He was murdered with this type of technology.


24 posted on 02/17/2024 1:44:23 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Chickensoup

Onstar?(not “onstage”)... There are ways to disable it.


25 posted on 02/17/2024 1:45:28 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Chickensoup

Depending on that car, hptuners software can delete any system.

It’s common use is to transplant newer engines into older vehicles while keeping the main engine/transmission module. You can delete any other individual module; anti-theft, anti-lock brakes, air bag system etc. You can delete anything not required to make the engine run and you can tweak those parameters.


26 posted on 02/17/2024 1:52:10 PM PST by Pollard (Hi)
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To: brianl703
Any car that would allow the remote start fob to kill the engine while driving was designed by an idiot.

Oh, you mean like a feral government employee? Any newish car can be remotely tracked and/or disabled.

You think the same feral government that will shoot a woman in the head because someone cut the barrel of a firearm 1/8" "too short" gives a damn about your health and life when they have an opportunity to further increase their control over the population of this country? You must be smoking some good hopium.

27 posted on 02/17/2024 1:53:20 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Twotone
We need an amendment that says no budget may pass containing new rules or regulations. Anything that is a rule or law must be passed individually, so they can’t sneak this kind of thing through on us.

I'd go further. The passage of every single law or regulation should be accompanied by the elimination of at least one law or regulation. I'd strongly support a 3 or more repeal for each new thing added.

28 posted on 02/17/2024 1:56:07 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: zeugma

I’m hopeful we’ll have an Article V Convention. Washington won’t fix itself, bu maybe states can. They just have to keep the Washington folks out of it.


29 posted on 02/17/2024 2:04:56 PM PST by Twotone (We have to stop punishing ourselves for considering things that once seemed crazy. - B. Weinstein)
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To: CFW

Because a review of their ballot choice history indicated that they are Caucasian or Christion or straight and, therefore, potential terrorists...


30 posted on 02/17/2024 2:11:24 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: Pollard

If that is the case why aren’t there people doing g it?

Why aren’t there shops advertising get a handle on your car electronics?


31 posted on 02/17/2024 2:22:53 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: mad_as_he$$

Take on star off ? Easily? Why can’t that happen at specialty shops?


32 posted on 02/17/2024 2:24:20 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Salman

“Think we can vote our way out?”


Nope. I think we have passed that point.


33 posted on 02/17/2024 2:25:32 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: Chickensoup

It’s a young gearhead thing but “tuning” is aplenty. Plenty of redneck guys get their diesel trucks tuned, mostly for performance.

There’s just not a big call for stripping out invasive tech. Everyone’s walking around with it anyway in the form of a smart phone.


34 posted on 02/17/2024 2:29:38 PM PST by Pollard (Hi)
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To: Oberon

“A 200-mile range and it takes hours to recharge... the message I’m receiving is “STAY HOME.””


With the WEF’s 15 minutes cities, you will not be needing a car anyway. If there is a legitimate reason for you to travel outside your living “sector” a governmental agency will provide your transport. Just remember to submit your application to travel at least six months in advance of the anticipated date.


35 posted on 02/17/2024 2:30:20 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: Pollard

“It’s a young gearhead thing but “tuning” is aplenty. Plenty of redneck guys get their diesel trucks tuned, mostly for performance.”


Remember the Mad Max movies and how movie-goers mocked the futuristic vehicles (all pieced together from various car model parts) because in the year of the movie’s setting (2022) everyone knew we would probably have the most advanced flying cars.

I believe the script-writers were closer to reality than we thought. People will soon be paying those old back-yard mechanics good money to piece together an ICE vehicle that runs and has no computers. We still have a few of those type mechanics in my rural area, but they are a dying breed.


36 posted on 02/17/2024 2:35:29 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: Pollard

Same reason no one advertises bypassing catalytic converter.


37 posted on 02/17/2024 2:39:35 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: Twotone

Personally, I think an Art V convention is one of the most dangerous things that could happen. I can think of no circumstance where the Deep State did not completely hijack such a thing. It would be the only way I can think of that the DS might finally manage to get rid of that pesky 2nd Amendment once and for all.


38 posted on 02/17/2024 2:45:15 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Pollard

Yes tuning.

Am aware.

Amazing that lots of people including fr want cars with less electronics and whine about wanting less however no one wants to do it??


39 posted on 02/17/2024 2:48:51 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: CFW

Exactly. The squeezing of American’s fight, and their hope, comes first,

Like a Valium, before surgery.


40 posted on 02/17/2024 2:55:38 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. For Greater Glory. HIS., stepping on attorney-client privilege. )
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