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Poland Angrily Responds to Putin's Claims About Hitler and World War II
Newsweek ^ | Feb. 9, 2024 | Aila Slisco

Posted on 02/10/2024 1:02:42 AM PST by canuck_conservative

... The Russian president argued that Poland was to blame for Hitler's decision to invade, claiming the Warsaw "went too far" by balking at the annexation of part of its territory.

Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski suggested in a post to X, formerly Twitter, on Friday that Putin was "paranoid" and called it "shocking" that Carlson "enabled" the Russian president by giving him a platform to spread his false claims and rhetoric.

Sikorski .. also noted that Hitler was joined in invading Poland by the Soviet Union, which was an ally to Nazi Germany for nearly the first two years of the war...

According to a verified translation of Putin's remarks during the Carlson interview, the Russian president claimed that Poland "forced" Hitler to invade by being "uncooperative" with Nazi demands to take territories including Polish city Gdańsk, then known as Danzig.

"[Poland] rejected Hitler's demands," Putin said. "Since [Poland] did not give up the Danzig corridor, the Poles nevertheless forced him. They got carried away and forced Hitler to start the Second World War against them first." ...

Putin's claim that Hitler had "no choice" but to invade Poland is not supported by historical evidence.

According to The National WWII Museum, Hitler set the stage for the invasion by making "it look as if the Poles had provoked the hostilities and the SS obliged by staging numerous false-flag operations and 'Polish provocations' against Germans."

The Russian president's 2022 annexation of parts of Ukraine prompted some to draw parallels with Hitler's actions during the early days of World War II.

Notably, Hitler justified Germany's ambitions to take Gdańsk/Danzig by citing the large number of pro-Nazi German speakers in the city at the time, a similar argument to Putin's claims about Russian speakers in Ukraine's Donbas region....

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: ailaslisco; bogusnonsense; europe; hitler; newsweak; poland; putin; putinbots; russianlies; russianpropaganda; weaknews; ww2; wwii
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To: wildcard_redneck
Like governments never fake data to fool their populations and cover up their crimes

Are you referring to the very boring and humorless Vladimir Putin?


121 posted on 02/10/2024 9:06:14 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Trump helped our military when he as in office.

O’Biden turned it into Shit.

Look at the leadership!

Nobody takes the US seriously any more.

Communist/Democrap Insanity is destroying the USA. But that was they plan from the start.


122 posted on 02/10/2024 9:27:02 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Hitler like most American leftard Dims...just make up an excuse to do whatever they want.


123 posted on 02/10/2024 9:57:24 AM PST by Leep (Kill ALL Fakestinians!)
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To: dfwgator
Russia demanded half of Poland in exchange for allying with Britain and France against Hitler. When they refused, Stalin went with Hitler.

Pretty sure the Soviets knew Hitler was after them all along, as this map published in 1939 illustrates.


124 posted on 02/10/2024 10:14:47 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Stalin counted on a long protacted war in the West. But France falling so quickly messed up Stalin’s plans.


125 posted on 02/10/2024 10:18:59 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: canuck_conservative
"Are you referring to the very boring and humorless Vladimir Putin?"

I don't believe that was actually Putin. It a body double. After all, according to Zeepers Putin has been killed by every known form of cancer. ;)

126 posted on 02/10/2024 10:19:08 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: canuck_conservative

And when the Nazis were invading France, the Low Countries, Denmark and Norway, and bombing Britain, who was their Number One Supplier?

The Soviet Union!


127 posted on 02/10/2024 10:20:05 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: wildcard_redneck; tlozo

The outer perimeter, is the border of Ukraine, and nothing inside, is Russian territory.


https://twitter.com/BrilliantMaps/status/1498655743167315976

Electoral Geography:

https://www.electoralgeography.com/new/en/countries/u/ukraine/ukraine-independence-referendum-1991.html

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128 posted on 02/10/2024 11:27:24 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

Who wouldn’t aa to be independent of the Soviet Union? It was awoke nightmare.


129 posted on 02/10/2024 11:30:28 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Yes.

I continue to think, that Ukraine will have to settle for less - meaning: being able to hold on to what it now has.

And, building up strength to sustain what it has.

No matter the outcome, Ukraine and Russia will have to learn to get along - and I believe that task is in the hands of the most-young generation and its successors.

Seems to me, that Germany wants very much to regain pre-war trade relations with Russia. I suspect that was working for Russia, because Moscow believed that Germany had enough required skill to maintain a distance from meddling in Moscow/Russia affairs.

I see the Russian boss (Putin for now), as a brutal realtor - head of a Russian Territorial Investment Trust. He knows that he has the largest “develop-able real estate” on the planet, and his duty is to protect it from “foreign developers” who are notorious artists of the trade.

Moscow knows that Red China is the bigger threat, but the real estate show (on the surface) is mostly western, and that gets attention.

Moscow and Russia much prefer that development have enough respect for “Russian culture” that is sometimes Russian and other times multi-ethnic, according to Moscow’s desires.

For Moscow, Ukraine was not a threat, and NATO was not even a threat . . . but BRUSSELS and all the pop-junk culture disturbances, are a threat.

And unfortunately, the help that the powers-that-be in Ukraine sought, has an expectation of bent knees and submission to BRUSSELS - the center for elite power, other than Moscow center (that has been, itself, in development).

Moscow does not want to be 2nd fiddle, and Moscow is not comfortable with the loss of Great Britain as a major competitor in the row. Moscow needed London as a competitor of BRUSSELS.

The last glimpse of UK independence, passed with Queen Elizabeth II - a moment in 2022 when Putin wanted very much to attend, but was rebuffed.

Moscow sees Trump as a competitor - some balance - against BRUSSELS-THINK.

And despite differences across the globe, I think, for the moment, that a lot of people would like Trump in office, for a chance at some stability.

BRUSSELS is too much like NYC -and- San Francisco Swamp Group Think - a view from Moscow, IMHO.


130 posted on 02/10/2024 11:53:55 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Cronos

close but parts of the western us per russan as well


131 posted on 02/10/2024 3:32:59 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: anton

yes they did, and FDR gave stalin the green light to keep poland.


132 posted on 02/10/2024 4:00:50 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Did Putin mention that Russia attacked Poland on September 17, 1939?

Did he bring up the German/Soviet Nonaggression Pact of 1939 or Russia’s invasion of Finland?


133 posted on 02/10/2024 4:47:00 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: linMcHlp

The voting in western Ukraine in 1991 reminds me of the voting for Statehood in Hawai’i in 1959.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Hawaiivotesinset.JPG


134 posted on 02/10/2024 8:23:46 PM PST by Degaston
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To: wildcard_redneck
Nope wildcard - it was your argument in post #21 Was Putin lying about the hundreds of years that both the Ukraine and Crimea were part of Russian and settled by Russians? Not one bit.

by that logic - For hundreds of years Alaska was part of Russia.

And the parts of the USA were English, French, Spanish and Mexican.

I suppose you want to return Texas to Mexico? And Georgia to the UK?

You are the one arguing that historical ownership is the cornerstone for deciding who gets what land

135 posted on 02/10/2024 11:56:06 PM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: wildcard_redneck
"You’re saying that anyone that has it holds it but what about the previous victims? "

I am saying that creating victims to grab land is disingenuous -- you ask about "previous victims" - well, the lands of western Russia up to Smolensk were part of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth --> should Moscow return them to Poland & Lithuania?

136 posted on 02/10/2024 11:57:32 PM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: wildcard_redneck
I don’t need to convince you of anything since Russia is going to take what it wants of Ukraine anyway

Ah, there it comes out - your historical "grievance" is a sham, so your next argument is "I don't need to convince you"

137 posted on 02/10/2024 11:58:15 PM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Lurker; wildcard_redneck
Maybe now a few of the pro Russian knuckleheads around here will see that he’s not the savior of Western Civilization he claims to be.

I wonder -- wildcard_red - did this make you see that Putin ain't the savior of Western Civilization he claims to be?

138 posted on 02/10/2024 11:59:16 PM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: alexander_busek

you are correct.

And I love the way they call it “The Great Patriotic war” forgetting that they not only went to bed with Nazi Germany, but the oil and resources supplied by Russia was what aided Germany in conquering western Europe.


139 posted on 02/11/2024 12:00:30 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos

I hate communists, especially the noxious American variety. One more time for the morons, Russia is not the Soviet Union and is less communist than the reptiles that rule us.


140 posted on 02/11/2024 12:04:15 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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