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1 posted on 02/02/2024 10:01:15 AM PST by TheConservator
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Neoncon war monger site.


2 posted on 02/02/2024 10:04:58 AM PST by dforest
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I stopped reading as soon as I came across this idiocy in the very first paragraph:

Such an outcome would bring a battered but triumphant Russian army right up to NATO’s border from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean.

Russia’s army is right up against NATO’s border because NATO has expanded to include countries that border Russia. That has nothing to do with Ukraine.

6 posted on 02/02/2024 10:09:33 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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The real food for thought is who this piece was put out by:

Our Board Members:

General Jack Keane (US Army, Retired), Chairman, Institute for the Study of War; President, GSI, LLC

Dr. Kimberly Kagan, Founder & President, Institute for the Study of War

The Honorable Kelly Craft, Former US Ambassador to UN and Canada

Dr. William Kristol, Director, Defending Democracy Together

The Honorable Joseph I. Lieberman, Senior Counsel, Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman, LLP

Kevin Mandia, Chief Executive Officer & Board Director, Mandiant

Jack D. McCarthy, Jr., Senior Managing Director & Founder, A&M Capital

Bruce Mosler, Chairman, Global Brokerage, Cushman & Wakefield, Inc.

General David H. Petraeus (US Army, Retired), Partner, KKR and Chairman, KKR Global Institute

Dr. Warren Phillips, Lead Director, CACI International

Colonel William Roberti (US Army, Retired), Managing Director, Alvarez & Marsal

Hudson La Force, former Chief Executive Officer of W. R. Grace & Co

This is from a NEOCON advocacy group for endless wars to support the military industrial complex and keep re-electing the status-quo that keeps the money flowing. Take it with a grain of salt!

9 posted on 02/02/2024 10:10:50 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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This is way too long to read, so I copied it and pasted it into chat GPT and gave the following instructions. “Summarize in a mocking voice.”

Here’s what it came up with:

Oh, look at this insightful piece of writing! The United States should be super worried about Russia’s actions in Ukraine because, you know, if they let Russia win, it’s gonna cost them a ton, and they’ll have to send loads of troops to Eastern Europe, and that’s just not fun for their budget. But hey, Ukraine’s not Afghanistan, it’s got an economy, and maybe it could even support its own military someday. So, maybe the US should help Ukraine win? But who knows, it’s all a bit complicated. 🤷‍♂️

Oh, those sneaky Russians and their air defense network plans! They were trying to use S-300 and S-400 systems to mess with NATO’s defense of the Baltic States. But guess what? Ukraine’s pushback in 2022 kept the threat away from Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania. Now, Russia’s tied up in Ukraine, so they can’t be a menace to NATO. But if Western aid suddenly stops, Russia might march all the way to Western Ukraine and set up shop near Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania. They’re even ready to station a bunch of armies there and make life difficult for NATO. So, watch out! 🙄


10 posted on 02/02/2024 10:11:43 AM PST by MNDude
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More like, The Higher Price of ‘Keeping’ Ukraine.


12 posted on 02/02/2024 10:12:03 AM PST by tomkat
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14 posted on 02/02/2024 10:13:14 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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Yeah deep fear is setting in. Russia will soon start looking at all those western weapons that flooded in and killed Russian solders and you don’t think the Russian public will be behind a retaliatory move?


15 posted on 02/02/2024 10:13:16 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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W / o the diversity

This religious war

Wouldn’t have happened

That’s how you have to end it

Get rid of biden - obama

End their holy - crusade - war

Go back to pluralism

Gog gay usa

Magog gay nato

Rev 13


19 posted on 02/02/2024 10:14:48 AM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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Victoria Nuland and crew started this whole conflict by unconstitutionally overthrowing the elected government of Ukraine and then HAND PICKING the replacement.

The organization that wrote this article you posted, was founded by the sister in law of... Victoria Nuland.

This whole mess, hundreds of thousands dead, 100s of billions flushed, is on their hands.

These are the LAST people you should be listening to about what is right in Ukraine and what we should do.


23 posted on 02/02/2024 10:16:48 AM PST by Mount Athos
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Bill Kristol’s group.

Why quote them on FR...?


29 posted on 02/02/2024 10:19:48 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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This group is run by Victoria Nuland’s sister - another war monger neocon.


31 posted on 02/02/2024 10:22:27 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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32 posted on 02/02/2024 10:23:30 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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33 posted on 02/02/2024 10:24:57 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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The High Price of Losing Ukraine for the GloboHomoPedoNazi WEF certainly has them worried.

However the Decent citizens of the world will just notice a little more money in their pockets.

34 posted on 02/02/2024 10:26:33 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Ukraine was “LOST” the minute the west pushed it into war, rather than sanely telling Z you cannot beat Russia in an open war.


35 posted on 02/02/2024 10:26:35 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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You won’t ‘lose’ it. It will just be split into a group of protectorates.


36 posted on 02/02/2024 10:28:29 AM PST by struggle
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We don’t “own” Ukraine, we have no treaty relationship that obliges us to defend Ukraine, and it is therefore impossible for us to “lose” it.

Not my pig, not my farm.


37 posted on 02/02/2024 10:28:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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PS - "My sister says thank you so much from the Institute of Perpetual War!"

44 posted on 02/02/2024 10:36:45 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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It's already lost.

Everything that happened in Ukraine is a rest of our meddling in that country. We wanted this proxy war and we've gotten our asses handed to us. And, there isn't anything that can be done to change that fact.

The VAST majority of Americans don't want a hot war with Russia. It would likely setoff WW III and we'd be losing end of it. It would be Vietnam at best.

Any Republican that gives another penny to Ukraine is unfit for office.

Project Ukraine from the start has been nothing but a money laundering operation, enhancing the bank accounts of the Bidens, Soros, Larry Fink and BlackRock among other despicable, greedy bastards.

45 posted on 02/02/2024 10:38:34 AM PST by Kazan
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Turmoil In Kiev Escalates As Ukraine Loses Ground To Russia

Ukraine confronts two deficits that cannot be remedied for at least one year — 1) lack of trained manpower and 2) lack of ammunition, air defense and reliable combat vehicles. Russia enjoys a clear tactical advantage on both counts.

Helmer succinctly describes Russia’s plan for the near term:

When the General Staff have been discussing with President Vladimir Putin the timing of the Russian offensive to force the Kiev regime into capitulation, it has been agreed, understood, and repeated that the strategic reserves of the Ukrainian forces should be destroyed first, together with the supply lines for the weapons and ammunition crossing the border from the US and the NATO allies.

This process, they also agreed, should take as long as required with least casualties on the Russian side, as determined by military intelligence. Also agreed and pre-conditional, there should be no repeat of the political intelligence failures of the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) which precipitated the failed special forces operation known as the Battle of Antonov (Hostomel) Airport from February 24 to April 2, 2022.

46 posted on 02/02/2024 10:39:33 AM PST by Kazan
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