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For Immigrants, Gun Rights Debate Goes Beyond Firearms (Distric court rules illegal immigrants have a 2A right to keep and bear arms)
Law360 ^ | January 19, 2024 | Marco Poggio

Posted on 01/22/2024 5:12:50 AM PST by DoodleBob

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To: Yo-Yo

Using your logic, then you should love this representative. (Of course I know what you posted was sarcasm)

https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2024/01/18/prisoners-would-get-to-vote-under-bill-backed-by-formerly-incarcerated-wa-lawmaker/

And this one is super special

https://mynorthwest.com/3946414/rantz-democrats-change-name-sex-offender-to-protect-rapists-feelings/

ANYBODY voting dim is totally insane or full on commie.


21 posted on 01/22/2024 5:49:12 AM PST by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: DoodleBob

The constitution does not grant rights or expand natural rights. It doesn’t guarantee to protect all my rights. It does have explicit guarantees that prevent government from taking several listed ones away. Non citizens are not protected by the US constitution. ANd since judges go to law school the don’t understand the law.


22 posted on 01/22/2024 5:51:51 AM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: rarestia

They have superior rights even including boarding without ID and going first before all other passengers on an airline..

Seems broadly similar to the granting of Rights to the Tribes in the 1980s, while denigrating non-tribal ‘rights’ as mere privileges which can be revoked any given time.

My fellow second class citizens - welcome to the once exclusive club!


23 posted on 01/22/2024 5:54:56 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DoodleBob
The antis seem to be thinking, “ok…those MAGA racist gun nuts also hate illegals. (Editor note: no, actually we love the rule of law.) So let’s give them a gun rights case where, for once, say ‘NO…gun rights aren’t plenary’. And THEN, we can say ‘seee…you said gun rights aren’t absolute over THERE, so NOW we can take guns away from your MAGA people over HERE.”

But SCOTUS already ruled way back in Heller that

“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. [It is] not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

24 posted on 01/22/2024 5:58:04 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: DoodleBob

OK, I can see how if a person is legally in the US, therefore, they are not criminally in possession, would be OK. But anyone here illegal, would be in criminal possession, not OK. I think our problem is that we don’t recognize the criminal nature of people illegally in the US. That should filter or limit whatever constitutional rights they have, including speech, search and seizure, etc.


25 posted on 01/22/2024 5:59:05 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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26 posted on 01/22/2024 6:04:17 AM PST by Liz
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To: DoodleBob
This feels like a trap.

I suspect some of this is going on.

Anti-Second Amendment judges pushing as hard as they can, to see if they can get a weak sister or two on the Supreme Court to blink, and say: oh, we went way too far with Bruen...

27 posted on 01/22/2024 6:04:28 AM PST by marktwain
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To: rarestia

“So an illegal immigrant...”

Illegal Alien


28 posted on 01/22/2024 6:15:38 AM PST by albie
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To: DoodleBob

Illegal Aliens have exactly one right before the law:

DEPORTATION!


29 posted on 01/22/2024 6:24:08 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: DoodleBob

Of course they must have guns! They’re invaders aren’t they?


30 posted on 01/22/2024 6:31:38 AM PST by Wdempsey (Democrats and slinkys.. Both useless but fun to push down stairs.v v ely)
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To: Candor7

Convicted felons, regardless of citizenship or not, will be denied purchase of firearms through normal firearms dealers.

Now, to make it illegal to sell a firearm that you own to another person is a stretch too far. That is a step to confiscation of firearms of all in USA. We can never go there. It is not worth the risk to think the Fed and State Government will be responsible controllers.

The 2nd Amendment must stand. Regardless of how bad this looks. Local control should be the enforcement level.

There is a good reason that for close to 60 months there has not been a month that there were less than a million firearms purchased. The public sees that we are in a legal crisis at the Fed Gov Level and in many Blue Lawless state.


31 posted on 01/22/2024 6:32:35 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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32 posted on 01/22/2024 6:41:38 AM PST by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed, Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)
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To: DoodleBob

Second Amendment is all about self-defense, and, on the other hand, saying that it’s limited to citizens. Because noncitizens.

With that twisted logic nobody needs to have a permit of any kind to own a gun.

Deal me in


33 posted on 01/22/2024 6:50:05 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: kvanbrunt2

Barry would have burned the Constitution if he could have got away with it. Moo hates “the d@mned flag” and some want her as POTUS to finish the country. Brandon and this administration is this close to establishing our enemies inside our borders ready to start WWIII with the US nuked out of existence proving they don’t love their grandkids.


34 posted on 01/22/2024 6:50:12 AM PST by bgill
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To: marktwain
This one is a Dubya judge.


35 posted on 01/22/2024 7:07:52 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

It seems to me the Judicial Branch is infected with terminal cancer and it has spread to the Legislative and Executive Branch.


36 posted on 01/22/2024 7:09:13 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: JSM_Liberty

Back when our founders wrote the BOR, it was understood that ‘the people’ referred to the citizens of the nation, and not foreign diplomats, &etc.


37 posted on 01/22/2024 7:59:50 AM PST by curious7
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To: DoodleBob
, Sing-Ledezma argued that the Second Amendment allows undocumented people like him to possess weapons in self-defense,

SOB doesn't even have the legal right to BE HERE ... possession of weapons is rather a moot point.

38 posted on 01/22/2024 8:02:34 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: rarestia
Did you notice in the article that hijo de puta had a pistol with the serial number scratched off? He didn't get that from an FFL dealer ...
39 posted on 01/22/2024 8:04:04 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Savage Beast

The police in America CANNOT ask a person if they are an illegal or not! Only the Border Patrol can do that.


40 posted on 01/22/2024 8:07:34 AM PST by ktw (72 ID, Finally Retired after 25 years!)
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