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How new CDC director is hoping to rebuild Americans’ trust in science (puff piece alert)
Seattle Times ^ | December 26, 2023 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 12/27/2023 5:59:23 AM PST by DoodleBob

…Americans’ trust in the agency, and in science more broadly, was badly damaged by the coronavirus pandemic, …38% of Republicans said they had little or no confidence in scientists to act in the public’s best interests, up from 14% in April 2020.

At the same time, the CDC’s winter vaccination campaign appears to be falling on deaf ears. ..And partisan divisions over vaccination persist: A KFF poll in September found 7 in 10 Democrats but just a quarter of Republicans planned to get the updated COVID shot.

When (Dr. Mandy K. Cohen) speaks to reporters, she frequently brings up her children…“…if we can have a human-to-human conversation about what I would do for my own kids, who I love and I want to be healthy, maybe that can connect us in a different way.”

Experts agree CDC officials and other public health leaders made serious messaging missteps during the pandemic. Officials bred mistrust by speaking “with certainty when there wasn’t any” and later changing their recommendations…research found a significant portion of the public — as much as 20% or 25% — was now unreachable because public health officials used language that “sounded like it was lecturing, and almost abusive toward people who had legitimate doubts.”

…When Rep. Daniel Crenshaw, R-Texas, pushed her to admit that the CDC had been wrong during the pandemic, she politely ignored the request. Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-S.C., wanted to know if she had regrets about COVID restrictions from her time in North Carolina (where she called for students and staff members in K-8 schools to wear masks and threatened legal action against a school district over its COVID policies). Cohen did not admit to any. When he asked her pointedly if she would impose such restrictions today, she ducked the question,

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In other words, they hired a medical bureaucrat who favors the heavy hand of government and cheerfully weaponizes and vaxxes her own children to advance Levithan.

Meet the new boss…

1 posted on 12/27/2023 5:59:23 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

I have a great deal of trust in science. It’s the majority of scientists who are just as corrupt as the majority of politicians, and for much the same reason: if you want your research funded, you have to have your conclusions pre-set bu the funders.


2 posted on 12/27/2023 6:01:52 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: DoodleBob
The first thing the CDC must do to even think about "rebuilding Americans' trust in science" is to stop lying; that is, stop trying to sell "political science" as "medical science". Come clean about all the lies and bad -- if not dangerously unhealthy -- information the CDC spread throughout the Fauci Flu debacle.

Betcha the CDC won't do any of this. The truly massive amount of funding provided to the CDC by entrenched politicians far outweighs truth ... and Liberty.

3 posted on 12/27/2023 6:09:44 AM PST by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: DoodleBob

Make that “science.” It’s anything but.


4 posted on 12/27/2023 6:13:45 AM PST by fwdude (.)
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To: DoodleBob

5 posted on 12/27/2023 6:15:27 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: chajin

I have trust that the scientific method can produce informative and insightful results when followed correctly. I believe statistical significance isn’t absolute certainty. I believe in full disclosure.

None of the above was followed by the CDC et al during the pandemic. And that same bastardized pathway is still being followed.

I don’t know which agency is a bigger dumpster fire : the CDC, IRS, or FBI.


6 posted on 12/27/2023 6:26:59 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

CDC is run by the Government, brings to mind President Reagans famous 9 words.


7 posted on 12/27/2023 6:29:20 AM PST by Rappini ("No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation" MacArthr)
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To: DoodleBob
HERE'S A NOVEL IDEA: BE HONEST! TELL THE EFFING TRUTH FOR A CHANGE!!
8 posted on 12/27/2023 6:32:14 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: DoodleBob

Get back to me on that trust in about 200 years. I still want to know the true reason virologist Dr. Timothy Cunningham angrily walked out of his CDC office in the middle of the day, took a walk picking up pretty rocks and ended up dead in the river with no after care for his beloved dog.


9 posted on 12/27/2023 6:37:48 AM PST by bgill
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To: DoodleBob
ze WILL trust ze Fuhrer of Science IMG-2588
10 posted on 12/27/2023 6:59:02 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: chajin
I also have trust in science. The scientists are the ones I don't trust.

Take Covid. People with reasonable questions about the efficacy of masks and the clot shot were dismissed as heretics. I thought that was the entire POINT of science. Asking questions and being a heretic and discovering something nobody else has.

11 posted on 12/27/2023 7:00:21 AM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: nonliberal
SCIENCE ISN'T MATH.

It never was.

And it sure isn't now.

The history of science is littered with "no wait....that's wrong...THIS is right..." going through the rinse and repeat cycle endlessly.

And that's ok. Inquiry and challenge and "being a science heretic" is, in many ways, how mankind learns more and can fix more problems.

One of my favorite sagas regarding "accuracy" and "settled science" is ulcers.

In 1981 Barry Marshall began working with Robin Warren, the Royal Perth Hospital pathologist who, two years earlier, discovered the gut could be overrun by hardy, corkscrew-shaped bacteria called Helicobacter pylori. Biopsying ulcer patients and culturing the organisms in the lab, Marshall traced not just ulcers but also stomach cancer to this gut infection. The cure, he realized, was readily available: anti­biotics. But mainstream gastroenterologists were dismissive, holding on to the old idea that ulcers were caused by stress.

Unable to make his case in studies with lab mice (because H. pylori affects only primates) and prohibited from experimenting on people, Marshall... ran an experiment on ...himself. He took some H. pylori from the gut of an ailing patient, stirred it into a broth, and drank it....Back in the lab, he biopsied his own gut, culturing H. pylori and proving unequivocally that bacteria were the underlying cause of ulcers.

For their work on H. pylori, Marshall and Warren shared a 2005 Nobel Prize. Today the standard of care for an ulcer is treatment with an antibiotic.

But science isn't math. Your checking account balance is the sum of deposits less sum of withdrawals. Always. Forever.

The problem arises when people try to equate science with math...usually they call it "settled science." And, to be sure, robust inquiry and disciplined application of the scientific method usually gives you clear and distinct results. Then, science is settled...until we get new data or better techniques, and then we get "wait a minute..".

For example, there was a most excellent article posted on how "settled science" wasn't so settled, wherein:

seems that Earth has been misplaced. According to a new map of the Milky Way galaxy, the Solar System's position isn't where we thought it was. Not only is it closer to the galactic centre - and the supermassive hole therein, Sagittarius A* - it's orbiting at a faster clip.

It further noted other "errors" in SCIENCE:

A good recent example of this is the red giant star Betelgeuse, which turned out to be closer to Earth than previous measurements suggested. This means that it's neither as large nor as bright as we thought. Another is the object CK Vulpeculae, a star that exploded 350 years ago. It's actually much farther away, which means that the explosion was brighter and more energetic, and requires a new explanation, since previous analyses were performed under the assumption it was relatively low energy

The other problem arises when Certain Powers work overtime to suppress assiduous inquiry. Which, is what we have today as well. It's a bad double whammy.

In the interest of full disclosure, my "science isn't math" quote came from a recent post on social sciences, that featured this brilliant give and take involving a Harvard faculty member critical of Charles Murray from the original article, that is worth reprinting - it is with regard to the "certainty of SCIENCE":

"so why should we let someone teach social science that we know to be wrong in our social science courses?"

Because it is possible that you are wrong.
Science is not mathematics. Newtonian physics was wrong. And social science is a further three rungs down in certainty from science.

Your level of certainty and arrogance about what can be said, and probably thought, smacks of religion, and not science. This is a political religion that permeates academia at the moment. And which I am fairly sure you will swear does not infect you, while the rest of us can see the symptoms quite plainly.

Only religions ban heretics from speaking because of the wrong-think they might cause. Real science loves a good heretic. In fact, honestly, the entire goal of science is to be a heretic. To have an idea that no other person ever had. Science is the pretty much the antithesis of your thought-police approach.

And most of academia used to be the antithesis of your thought police approach as well, until the religion of leftism took it over, with the direct help of people like you.

12 posted on 12/27/2023 7:05:33 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Science, like truth, does not need a PR campaign.

Politicians and liars need PR campaigns.


13 posted on 12/27/2023 7:10:44 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: DoodleBob

Communicating “who I love” as part of her job? NTSA


14 posted on 12/27/2023 8:02:05 AM PST by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: DoodleBob

“I’m not just the CDC director, I’m also a mom,” she said cheerily, noting on live television that her daughters, 9 and 11, had already received the latest COVID and flu shots. She added, “So I wouldn’t recommend something for the American people I wouldn’t recommend for my own family.”

Whatever Dr. Mengele Cohen.

If you were promoting tea oil extract for gangrene, should I take you seriously?

Your team deKcuF up and did so willingly so, they could cash on the lucrative deals to be in The BioPharma Industrial Complex.

You guys are frauds

I will neve take the flu shot again and won’t be finishing my 2nd shot for Shingles as I thought I was going to lose my arm from the 1st and was put in bed for over a week from it.


15 posted on 12/27/2023 8:10:07 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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16 posted on 12/27/2023 8:17:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: DoodleBob

I trust real science.
I DON’T trust anyone from the Gov. including the CDC.


17 posted on 12/27/2023 8:28:16 AM PST by Zathras
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To: DoodleBob

It would deepen my trust if all of the woke control freaks at CDC/NIH/NIAID gathered on their front lawn, read a short statement of apology, linked arms, and committed mass suicide.

Absent that, I will never trust them again — along with about three quarters of the rest of the medical “profession”. Just like journalists, they have gone from helpful public servants to power-mad cultural marxist control freaks in the blink of an eye.


18 posted on 12/27/2023 8:41:38 AM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: DoodleBob

Push to indict Fauci and we might believe you.


19 posted on 12/27/2023 8:59:27 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Nervous Tick

The “scientists” want to save the planet by reducing population.

They have a conflict of interest—saving and extending lives will harm the planet.

Let us hear them talk openly about that topic—if they dare.


20 posted on 12/27/2023 9:02:25 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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