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There Is No Precedent for How Bad Biden’s Polls Are Right Now
Slate ^ | December 20, 2023 | David Faris

Posted on 12/20/2023 6:42:30 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

As President Joe Biden grows increasingly mystified by his unpopularity, he is also experiencing the worst polling of his presidency. This plummet was punctuated by last Thursday’s release of several Bloomberg/Morning Consult surveys showing him getting swept in a series of battleground states. Then, on Tuesday, yet another New York Times/Siena College survey showed former President Donald Trump beating Biden nationally and, perhaps most shockingly, with young voters. Now that the contact high of the most recent Democratic election overperformance in November’s off-year contests has worn off, genuine fear has set in among both Democratic insiders and the rank and file as the president trails Trump by 3 points in the RealClearPolitics average.

Precisely how scared Democrats should be about Biden’s standing depends on how his plight compares with those of presidents past. And there’s no sugarcoating it: This might be the worst polling environment for an incumbent president one year out from an election since the advent of the polling era in the 1930s and also the most dire situation facing any Democratic presidential candidate in decades. Panic is entirely warranted.

It’s worth noting that the universe of polling around an incumbent president’s reelection chances is an extremely small sample size. When people make confident claims about the relationship between polling data and outcomes with incumbent presidents, they are largely talking about a whopping 12 post-WWII cases. To make it even harder to draw firm conclusions, as recently as the 1990s (what my students adorably refer to as “the late 1900s”), there were no polling aggregators like RealClearPolitics or FiveThirtyEight because there were not that many surveys, especially this far out from an election.

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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No matter how low any Dem in the Presidential race poll ratings may be - it will still be a landslide (after the polls close) for the Dem candidate, winning the electoral college by a very convincing number over the GOP candidate. cf 2020


21 posted on 12/20/2023 7:09:58 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Biden could have ONLY 10% APPROVAL and HE WILL STILL WIN IN 2024. There is NO WAY the deep state gives up power at this point, they have committed far too many treasonous acts punishable by DEATH for them to turn their DOJ, CIA, FIB, DHS, EPA, etc. over to those who may hold them accountable for their acts. NO WAY they will hand the keys to Trump. Simply NO WAY that's going to happen.

2020 was STOLEN FROM TRUMP in the dead of night. Perhaps the deep state industrial complex will find a different way to steal it in 2024 and this probably involves fielding MILLIONS OF NEW BIDEN VOTERS THROUGH OUR BORDER, enough to keep President Poopy-Diapers in office for four more years.

ATTENTION ILLEGAL ALIENS, the deep state has JOBS for you in 2024 as BALLOT BOX STUFFERS, BALLOT FRAUDSTERS, BALLOT HARVESTERS, ETC.. and whether you even know it or not, YOU WILL VOTE AND VOTE MANY TIMES AND NO ONE WILL BE ALLOWED TO SEE THOSE BALLOTS just as Kari Lake is NOT ALLOWED to see all the FORGED BALLOTS from Maricopa County, AZ per COURT ORDER.

22 posted on 12/20/2023 7:11:16 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Biden and his whore monger son took bribes. Democrats don't care that he and his son are criminals.

Florida needs to remove Biden's name from all ballots - and all democrats who supported him because we all knew he took bribes... Biden was a traitor. The fourteenth works for Florida too... bye bye democrats - you're off the ballots.

Eff YOU Morning Joe and your totalitarian thugs...

23 posted on 12/20/2023 7:12:38 AM PST by GOPJ (Surgery doesn't make a man a woman anymore than wearing a Gorilla costume turns a man into an ape.)
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To: All

It would not be an error to say

There is no president ... for Biden’s bad polling

... in fact there has been no president since around January 2021. Just a sad clown with 81 million pretend votes. Well let’s be generous and say 21 million pretend votes, 60 million could have been that stupid, I suppose. It will turn out to be the only “accomplice-ment” of this foul regime.


24 posted on 12/20/2023 7:12:42 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: ConservativeDude

“oh, wait, there’s also “mail in” ballots....”

My first thought as well.

Is it not odd that articles about democRAT operatives getting heartburn over the polling numbers never mention the impact of mail-in balloting fraud has when it comes to swinging an otherwise lost election.
(/sarc)


25 posted on 12/20/2023 7:26:48 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

People don’t seem to understand.

It doesn’t matter that Joe Biden is demented and incompetent. It doesn’t matter that his policies have really damaged the middle class of America. It doesn’t matter that small business are failing and that non-part time jobs are dissappearing. It doesn’t matter that his incompetence as resulted in wars or expansion of wars, in Ukraine, Syria, Israel, and probably Taiwan soon. It doesn’t matter that the US looses Trillions a year on illegal alien costs, and that the American taxpayer can’t afford it. It doesn’t matter that the terrorists have American equipment left in Afghanistan by his poorly executed withdrawal. It doesn’t matter that the nation is weaker, morally confused, and 105 million people are on government support while there is only 140 million working. It doesn’t matter that the national debt is crushing the economy or new families. It doesn’t matter that the political party he is with, the Democrats, have used lawyers and partisan judges to vilify political opponents and are even now trying to deny us the right to vote for a presidential candidate in Colorado. While all of that results in poor polling numbers, NONE OF IT MATTERS.

None of it matters because voting doesn’t matter! It’s rigged, right up and including the greater than 100% voter turnout in counties all over Colorado. The greater than 100% voter turnout in Pennsylvania. The Thousands, if NOT HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of illegal ballots counted in Fulton county Georgia alone. The mules collecting ballots from DNC centers and illegally voting. We the people don’t have a say because our civil rights have been destroyed by Democrats policies and actions that drown out our votes with illegal votes.

That’s the thing that actually matters.


26 posted on 12/20/2023 7:31:19 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: z3n

No, but we were in line to get gas, inflation was at 12%, mortgage rates were damn near 18%,our nation was being held hostage by Iran, and our military could not find a dozen helicopters, there was no money to fix our warships and military hardware, let alone put gas in them, unemployment was in the double digits... do I need to continue?
Reagan took 49 states in the election.


27 posted on 12/20/2023 8:14:16 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Biden could have ONLY 10% APPROVAL and HE WILL STILL WIN IN 2024. There is NO WAY the deep state gives up power at this point”

If the deep state had as much power as you credit them with, they would have rounded up all Trump supporters (the insurrectionists that we are) and put us in internment camps by now.

They haven’t because they can’t. At least not yet.

It took a worldwide plague to stop Trump in 2020. The left threw everything they had at him. And he’s still standing.

Trump won in 2016. He can win again.


28 posted on 12/20/2023 8:19:04 AM PST by unlearner (I, Robot: I think I finally understand why Dr. Lanning created me... ;-)
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To: joe fonebone

No, but we were in line to get gas, inflation was at 12%, mortgage rates were damn near 18%,our nation was being held hostage by Iran, and our military could not find a dozen helicopters, there was no money to fix our warships and military hardware, let alone put gas in them, unemployment was in the double digits... do I need to continue?
Reagan took 49 states in the election.

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Not to get too serious, because I was half-heartedly joking about it not mattering because as bad as it was back in the Carter days, no one was bussing illegal voters around to battle ground states back then and so as bad as it gets, Biden will win the election anyway, but since you brought it up, you are actually making the case that Biden isn’t as bad as Carter was. I forgot how bad things were back then. We have inflation now, and we have relatively high interest rates, but unemployment isn’t bad and we don’t have food and gas lines. Also, not to be a debbie doubter, but besides election fraud, we have a divided country now. At least half of the country are NPCs, ‘woke’ and pre-programmed to vote a certain way. Let me know if you disagree, but I actually think people were more intellectually honest and had better critical thinking skills back in the 70s. In other words, they were capable of rejecting a president over terrible performance then.


29 posted on 12/20/2023 8:21:52 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Biden’s poll numbers could be in single digits, yet he will garner 90 million votes. Remember the 2020 campaign when Biden’s rallies were pathetic and Trump filled venues to overflowing with enthusiastic crowds? The fix is in for Biden. Trump will be convicted by kangaroo courts on phony charges and jailed. The question is will right thinking American people just accept this fraud.


30 posted on 12/20/2023 8:27:20 AM PST by The Great RJ ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Of course there’s precedent: Jimmuh and Nixon. I wonder what Buchanan’s polls would have been back in the day when the Confederates took over Fort Sumter after a siege. But they didn’t do polls back then. They do them now, despite the stupidity of the entire concept.


31 posted on 12/20/2023 8:37:24 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“As President Joe Biden grows increasingly mystified by his unpopularity...”

The first sentence says it all. He’s obviously increasingly mystified about everything as his brain continues to fail. The lapdog media is having a very hard time hiding how addled Dementia Joe is. Plus, “his” policies suck.


32 posted on 12/20/2023 9:41:19 AM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: Bon of Babble

I had to listen to a bunch of old ladies at a church luncheon claim that Biden is in better shape than Trump... seriously!
They’re not even lefties, they’ll complain about the migrants but refuse to see the obvious connection to Biden.


33 posted on 12/20/2023 10:08:06 AM PST by nbenyo
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What do the ballot counters think? That’s all that matters.


34 posted on 12/20/2023 11:26:05 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
There Is No Precedent for How Bad Biden’s Polls Are Right Now

Good thing for the Democrats that Biden won't be their candidate.

How's Newsom looking?

35 posted on 12/20/2023 11:28:49 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
There Is No Precedent for How Bad Biden’s Polls Are Right Now

Good thing for the Democrats that Biden won't be their candidate.

How's Newsom looking?

36 posted on 12/20/2023 11:32:06 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Doesn’t matter.

They’ll count 110,000,000 ballots for him this go around.


37 posted on 12/20/2023 11:38:48 AM PST by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: Red Badger

The two a.m. special!


38 posted on 12/21/2023 7:57:27 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: unlearner

By November 2024, it will be nearly impossible TO COMPETE WITH 20+ MILLION BIDEN VOTERS AND PAID BALLOT BOX STUFFERS WHO HAVE ILLEGALLY CROSSED INTO AMERICA.


39 posted on 12/21/2023 8:20:44 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: joe fonebone

If Jimmy Carter had the stomach and the skills to steal elections he could easily have been elected to a second term.

It is so easy a monkey could do it.


40 posted on 12/21/2023 8:23:09 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Obey or get canceled.)
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