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Texas could vote on referendum to secede from the United States this spring
msn.com ^ | 12/16/2023 | Carl Gibson

Posted on 12/19/2023 4:40:22 PM PST by eastexsteve

Leaders of the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM) — which openly calls for the Lone Star State to secede from the United States and become an independent nation again — appear to have surpassed the threshold to put a secession ballot initiative on the 2024 Republican primary ballot this March..

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bs; democrats; headfake; nonsense; secession; signatures; texas
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To: eastexsteve

If Texas secedes will they be too busy fighting the US to deal with the border invaders?
I’ve a good mind to move there just to endorse secession, but I’d like to hear the end goal.
If all they’ll accomplish is knocking a red state off the electoral map, why bother. It’ll rot and fall off on its own in a couple of cycles.


81 posted on 12/20/2023 2:16:23 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Sanctuary state.” A mini-secession. How’s that? Hey, it’s a living Constitution now.


82 posted on 12/20/2023 2:19:46 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: PubliusMM
Hell! I may have to move to Texas!

Right with you! (Already wrote my bumper sticker.)

83 posted on 12/20/2023 2:22:00 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Texan5

You won’t be allowed it’s that simple. I guess the Constitution is irrelevant to you but I put half my life in defending it.


84 posted on 12/20/2023 3:35:17 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: TLI

You won’t be allowed it’s that simple. I guess the Constitution is irrelevant to you but I put half my life in defending it.


85 posted on 12/20/2023 3:35:34 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Fury

Since we’re no longer a republic, the law is now whatever Deep State says it is.

There’s not a red state in the nation, BTW.

Not one.

Thanks to out of control budgets and addictive federal funding, Deep State has every state in the nation by its budgetary short hairs.

Every single, sodding state.


86 posted on 12/20/2023 3:44:10 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: frank ballenger; Coronal
Yes———40 fewer electoral votes for a GOP candidate. Irreplaceable. Dems would celebrate.

Dems would have nothing to celebrate. Every where y'all say republican, say democrat. They too lose access to the same 40 electoral votes.

87 posted on 12/20/2023 4:03:14 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: Az Joe
I’m stayin in.

What seceding states call people like you, THE ENEMY.

88 posted on 12/20/2023 4:05:34 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: wild74
Looks like this thread has brought out all of the federal bootlickers. We ARE taking names.


89 posted on 12/20/2023 4:11:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Sacajaweau
I believe that it is impossible because Congress has to approve.

Maybe you could show is where in the US Constitution it codifies that? Thanks in advance.

90 posted on 12/20/2023 4:12:56 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: maddog55
Never happens...they’d still need approval by both houses of Congress and 3/4 of the states.

Maybe you could show is where in the US Constitution it codifies that? Thanks in advance.

91 posted on 12/20/2023 4:15:04 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Re: 89 - LOL!

That’s appropriate around Christmas (making a list, checking it twice).


92 posted on 12/20/2023 4:15:21 AM PST by Fury
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To: The Old Hoosier
This would destroy our country create two new countries.

Fixed it.

93 posted on 12/20/2023 4:17:14 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: maddog55

The Constitution is Democrat toilet paper.


94 posted on 12/20/2023 4:19:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

The Constitution makes no provision for secession specifically... agreed.

However, the Constitution of the United States provides that it may be amended, but it does not, as it exists now, contemplate its own destruction, nor a dissolution of the Government of which it is the living evidence.

Constitutionally, there can be no such thing as secession of a State from the Union.

Other states have tried and failed.

Texas and other southern states tried this in 1860-1861. How’d that turn out?

Supreme Court ruling: Texas v. White[58] was argued before the United States Supreme Court during the December 1868 term. Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase “recognized that a state could cease to be part of the union ‘through revolution, or through consent of the States’”.


95 posted on 12/20/2023 5:34:45 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: central_va

Agree 100% and hopefully someday the left will be defeated and sanity will return to government. I don’t have high hopes of that happening in my lifetime.


96 posted on 12/20/2023 5:37:05 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: central_va

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/29/texas-secession/


97 posted on 12/20/2023 5:57:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: eastexsteve

publicity stunt for that new civil war movie


98 posted on 12/20/2023 6:44:10 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Fury
The Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers are great reads.
But they are not law.


Your posts are bad reads, and they are certainly not law. The Federalist Papers are frequently cited by courts to expound upon the constitution. SCOTUS refusing to exercise original jurisdiction in a case between states, when no other court has such jurisdiction, tears at the heart of constitutional government. It's a breach of the social contract, and this nation was founded on the idea that breach of the social contract is grounds to sever ties forged under the old social contract. You just don't get it.
99 posted on 12/20/2023 6:57:28 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin
LOL!

No, you don't like that I don't agree with your opinion, so you restore to foot-stomping.

As I wrote, there's disagreement regarding SCOTUS and original jurisdiction in Texas v. Pennsylvania, 592 U.S. ___ (2020)

100 posted on 12/20/2023 8:15:08 AM PST by Fury
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