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To: skr
Not showing your ID is not complying. The officer has a right to know who he or she is dealing with.

Incorrect.

The only time a officer may demand you identify is if they are going to arrest you, and they need reason beyond you did not want to identify, or if you are behind the wheel of a vehicle.

You need not identify under any other circumstances.

11 posted on 12/08/2023 8:54:42 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

As long as they have reasonable cause, they can demand ID.
You can get rectification, if your rights are violated, through the system/


42 posted on 12/08/2023 11:19:20 PM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

In many states failure to identify is a crime. Especially when pulled over for potential traffic offenses. In those encounters police have a right to identify you.

CC


52 posted on 12/09/2023 12:01:36 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
harmless youre a dunning kruger patient. IOW you are too stupid to realize how stupid you are. .

law enforcement HAS the right to ask for your ID during an investigation including a traffic stop.

You need to get educated to realize how uneducated you really are.

no doubt.

69 posted on 12/09/2023 1:44:04 AM PST by Ikeon (I stopped going to my family doctor whenever I felt sick. I've never been healthier. .)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; roving

“Many states have “stop-and-identify” laws. Under these laws, if a police officer reasonably suspects that someone has engaged in criminal activity, the officer can detain that person and ask for identification. A person who refuses to provide identification commits the crime of resisting an officer’s lawful order. (Hiibel v. Nevada, 542 U.S. 177 (2004).) Without that reasonable suspicion, however, a demand for identification may be illegal....

Laws in many states define loitering as “wandering about from place to place without apparent business, such that the person poses a threat to public safety.” Under these laws, if a police officer sees someone loitering, the officer can demand identification and an explanation of the person’s activities. If the person fails to comply, the officer can arrest the person for loitering. Therefore, the refusal to answer questions is a problem only if the officer has also observed the person loitering.”

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/demanding-identification-people-street.html

Remember, though: The COP decides on the spot if he or she has “reasonable” suspicion. You can argue later in court, but at the time things are going down, the COP decides if they need to see your ID.

Once they demand it, refusing is going to result in them assuming you are violating the law, giving the the right to arrest you. So...refusing to provide ID is not a good strategy.


116 posted on 12/09/2023 6:30:07 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Alabama is a “stop and identify” state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes


121 posted on 12/09/2023 6:40:22 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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