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Texas Lawsuit Claims Pfizer Exaggerated Effectiveness of Covid Vaccine
The Guardian ^ | Fri 1 Dec 2023 | Gloria Oladipo

Posted on 12/01/2023 2:10:26 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 12/01/2023 2:10:26 PM PST by nickcarraway
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https://rumble.com/v3z2pkj-dr.-wolf-breaks-down-ag-ken-paxtons-lawsuit-against-pfizer-for-defrauding-a.html


2 posted on 12/01/2023 2:14:22 PM PST by lizma2
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“consensus that vaccine prevents severe infection and death”

They can gage this how, exactly?
How can they possibly claim this, today, after all we now know?


3 posted on 12/01/2023 2:15:23 PM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: nickcarraway

Lol. Editorializing in the first sentence. Propaganda, not news. I always read The Guardian to get MI6s take on current events.


4 posted on 12/01/2023 2:15:23 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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I think this is a blatant political ploy. It has nothing to do with vaccine efficacy and everything to do with Paxton’s calculation that catering to those who have fallen for antivax misinformation will put him in a stronger position than accepting the science and rejecting the misinformation.

Despite the efforts of professional antivaxxers to convince everyone that conservatives are a bunch of scientifically illiterate yahoos, most of us actually are pro-science and pro-vaccine. However, that impression of conservatives as anti-science kooks is politically very harmful.


5 posted on 12/01/2023 2:20:48 PM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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Thank you for this and all of your other posts regarding COVID. Your comments are a breath of fresh air.

Some time back you recommended three textbooks regarding cell biology and biochemistry. I got those from my library and am trying to get through them. In addition to new ideas and concepts, they are confirming what had learned long ago about vaccines and immunology in HS and undergraduate college classes.

Thank you for your recommended reading and for your informative posts.

6 posted on 12/01/2023 2:33:13 PM PST by foxfield (When the going gets tough, the tough get going!)
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Big Pharma lied to make more money at the expense of suckers?
How could this be? /S

Ammo for fellow drug company ad haters——
A new study finds that slightly more than 70% of pharmaceutical drugs advertised on television are of “low therapeutic value,” meaning they offer little benefit over other available therapies. Jan 25, 2023

Reasons why the majority of people want TV drug ads banned from TV:
(examples)
The detailed drug side effects make people uncomfortable. .
The ads could negatively impact children.

The U.S. is the only country besides New Zealand that allows direct advertising of prescription drugs to consumers. In the U.S., this includes digital, magazine, newspaper, billboard, radio, and television promotion.


7 posted on 12/01/2023 2:43:33 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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There was a fascinating webinar recorded last night discussing the lawsuits related to COVID-19 and the status updates of major cases (see link below).

The Health Freedom Counsel is one group of attorneys cooperating together in the lawsuits. Their current membership includes 239 attorneys in 36 states and growing.

Call in the Lawyers

8 posted on 12/01/2023 3:32:16 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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I thought it was pretty freaking effective as a death jab. 😏


9 posted on 12/01/2023 4:06:42 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Everything should be judged by how well it performed it’s intended purpose.


10 posted on 12/01/2023 4:07:19 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: exDemMom

And those who fall for Pfizer ads are the real yahoos.


11 posted on 12/01/2023 6:43:41 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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Even those who ingest the Pfizer blue pill will fall and go limp.


12 posted on 12/01/2023 8:10:15 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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Look another sock puppet.

From Maryland.

Which government agency do YOU work for?


13 posted on 12/02/2023 10:48:49 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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See that, off in the distance, Dingbat?

That’s Nuremberg 2.0.

Are your bags packed for New Zealand yet?


14 posted on 12/02/2023 10:50:08 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Despite the efforts of professional antivaxxers to convince everyone that conservatives are a bunch of scientifically illiterate yahoos, most of us actually are pro-science and pro-vaccine.

Yeah, but you're a liberal troll. And you're the one trying to convince people that opposition to the jabs is rooted in superstition.

There are three reasons it doesn't work.

1) The opposition to the jabs is from MDs and PhDs.

2) Most people know someone personally, or have a family member, who was hurt by the jabs. "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes" only gets people mad.

3) You're a lying Dingbat.

15 posted on 12/02/2023 5:44:56 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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I wasn't addressing you. I was addressing another Freeper and thanking her for her sensible comments and helpful recommendations.

You know nothing about me. You need to get over yourself.

And, exDemMom, if you are watching, thank you again for your informative posts.

16 posted on 12/03/2023 8:02:07 AM PST by foxfield (When the going gets tough, the tough get going!)
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I don’t care if you were addressing me or not.

Your correspondent is a dishonest sack of troll and apologist for the clot shots.

SO what Federal Agency did you say you worked for, again? 😆


17 posted on 12/03/2023 8:07:47 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; nickcarraway; exDemMom

18 posted on 12/03/2023 8:20:59 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Since you started this dialog, let's go.

What does my work history have to do with anything? How about we start with you telling me yours and what makes you think you are such an expert in these matters?

And, what does my living in Maryland have to do with anything? I happen to like living here. You aobiously know little about Maryland.

19 posted on 12/03/2023 2:41:24 PM PST by foxfield (When the going gets tough, the tough get going!)
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What does my work history have to do with anything?

It might, it might not.

And Dingbat here talked about the government hiring thousands of biochemists/molecular biologists, and the like; and they talk to each other.

Maryland is home to a whole bunch of Federal workers, including NIH in Bethesda, outside of DC.

Here's a couple of Maryland jokes.

Q. What's the first words a Dundalk baby says?

A. "Attention, Wal-Mart shoppers."

Q. What's the shortest route from Israel to Africa?

A. Park Heights Avenue!

P.S. Re-elect Ellen Sauerbrey.

For mine? I don't go around talking about everyone I've met as though I'm on a first-name basis with them decades later, then call them a kook, like she's done on these threads about Dr. Malone. Besides, Dingbat here says I don't even have a high-school level understanding of science.

It's funny, because she's putting links to 100-level biology textbooks, and earlier, on another thread, she gave a link to Molecular Biology of the Cell, 7th Edition. At first I had high hopes, because I remember reading a book of that title I bought on the clearance rack from the public library for $2, co-authored by (can't remember which, it's in storage right now) either Watson or Crick, (Yes, the real Watson & Crick, I checked). But when I looked at her recommended texts, it looked far less rigorous than the one I used as an undergraduate over 30 years ago.

She claims to have been on a first-name basis with Dr. Malone, and then later, amended that to she had done a project for a few weeks in his lab in grad school, apparently while deciding what group to work for. But she claims she knows more RNA chemistry than him. That's not so certain: at a professional level, or even during a PhD/MD, you learn to pick up related concepts on your own without having to be spoon-fed them by a teacher as in high-school or college.

20 posted on 12/03/2023 4:39:14 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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