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EXCLUSIVE: Chinese scientists find a NEW bat coronavirus linked to pangolins that has same freak mutation as Covid - and some experts say it shoots down the lab leak theory
Daily Mail ^ | 11-25-23 | ALEXA LARDIERI

Posted on 11/26/2023 7:17:08 AM PST by dynachrome

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To: PeterPrinciple

CCP scientists.

THAT is the point, the lead to this story. It is like: “CNN found......”


41 posted on 11/26/2023 8:32:55 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: dynachrome

Riiiiiight.
I call bs shenanigans.


42 posted on 11/26/2023 8:34:16 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: dynachrome

Chinese researchers find that Chinese researchers had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of COVID-19.

Color me skeptical.


43 posted on 11/26/2023 8:36:53 AM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: exDemMom
I've analyzed the sequence of the original SARS-CoV-2 isolate myself: no signs of genetic engineering.

If you say it, I doubt it.

44 posted on 11/26/2023 8:41:34 AM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: dynachrome

THEY left out the gene regions which came from EBOLA— they couldn’t have come from a bat or even a pangolin. IOW this is MORE propaganda Bullcrap from the chi-Coms! Absolute bull crap and as prior poster said they CREATED this AND they CULTIVATED it— so it would jump species and be held in mammalian reserve hosts. A pangolin? What utter bull crap!


45 posted on 11/26/2023 8:42:33 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: dynachrome

Chinese scientists are as believable as Hunter Biden giving a speech on ethics.


46 posted on 11/26/2023 8:43:24 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: antidemoncrat
Same experts that claimed the original Covid-19 virus came from a wet market? The experts who say that are the scientists who analyzed the outbreak pattern, the virus, and samples collected around the market. Technically, they did not say that the virus originated at the Huanan market, but that it was introduced into humans at the market. The virus originated in bats.

Here are some of the published scientific reports: The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic. --Analysis (with maps) of the spread of the outbreak published by university and research institution scientists from the US, UK, Netherlands, Belgium, and Australia.

Early Transmission Dynamics in Wuhan, China, of Novel Coronavirus–Infected Pneumonia. --These Chinese (and one non-Chinese) scientists and physicians conducted the early epidemiological investigations that implicated the Huanan market.

Dissecting the early COVID-19 cases in Wuhan. --Editorial discussing initial outbreak centered around Huanan market (with a map).

47 posted on 11/26/2023 8:56:54 AM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom

‘I’ve analyzed the sequence of the original SARS-CoV-2 isolate myself: no signs of genetic engineering.’

well, I guess that settles it then, doesn’t it...since you’ve analyzed it your own self and all...


48 posted on 11/26/2023 8:57:25 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: gibsonguy

Well, I do have a telecaster from China that plays. Well, it did. I took it apart to use parts from it. Weighed in at 9.8 lbs so new body in work. Other than that......plenty of doubt.


49 posted on 11/26/2023 9:00:27 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: exDemMom

Nice straw man argument.

Here is what many rational people think:

Chinese scientists, in complicity with the U.S., created a killer virus of which they, in their incompetence, lost control.

The entire world economy was shattered as all the perfectly healthy people were quarantined. Millions of lives were shattered as family businesses were destroyed.

Promising therapeutics were quashed in the interest of emergency FDA approval of a novel gene therapy which was rushed into distribution at Warp Speed, bypassing the usual testing safeguards. As a result, hundreds of thousands of people, instead of being treated with the therapeutics, were intubated and died. Alone. Their loved ones weren’t even allowed to hold funerals.

Sane, intelligent people who wished to analyze the risk/benefit ratio of the novel therapy vs Covid 19, were ridiculed and had their lives cancelled.

The Democrats seized upon the opportunity and eliminated voting integrity in the name of safety.


50 posted on 11/26/2023 9:00:55 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: exDemMom
This is why I stick to the scientific explanations rather than conspiracies

Please share with us your feelings about the scientific explanations of anthropogenic climate change.

51 posted on 11/26/2023 9:05:12 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: null and void
If you say it, I doubt it.

Anyone who knows how can analyze it. All of the genomics analysis tools are publicly accessible. You can do it yourself.

First, the virus genome sequence: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate Wuhan-Hu-1, complete genome.

Next, the sequence analysis tools: Basic Local Alignment Search Tool. The most pertinent tool here is the "VecScreen" tool; since a vector is used for genetic engineering, you would find it if present in the SARS-CoV-2 genome.

Finally, the tool that molecular biologists use to compare sequences from different organisms: Multiple Sequence Alignment. (Note: this tool is being retired at the end of January, but the new tool is not available yet.)

If I am lying about doing the sequence analyses which show that the SARS-CoV-2 is a natural virus, then you should be able to do the same analysis and show exactly where the signs of genetic engineering are and demonstrate that I am lying. I've provided almost everything you need. What I did not provide was links to other coronavirus sequences for the Clustal analysis, but--since you apparently know more about molecular biology than I do--it should be trivial for you to find them.

52 posted on 11/26/2023 9:09:53 AM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: rktman

Hmm a Chinese Tele..good copy or junk?


53 posted on 11/26/2023 9:10:39 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Jeff Chandler
Please share with us your feelings about the scientific explanations of anthropogenic climate change.

I've expressed my analysis of "climate change" many times on this forum. Since this is not a discussion of "climate change," if you are really curious about what I have to say on that, please search the forum. Or (since the search feature is not great), use Google or something to search for those posts.

54 posted on 11/26/2023 9:11:35 AM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: dynachrome

They wish.

The lab leak *theory* is never going away.


55 posted on 11/26/2023 9:12:10 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: usconservative; bitt; rodguy911; ZULU; Jane Long; mosaicwolf; tet68; Kathy in Alaska; Red Badger; ..

And, you believe the shit that our government tells us or Big Pharma, the Medical Industrial Complex, any of our alphabet agencies, corrupt and treasonous US Congress, MSM, and the list of enemies within goes on.

Since when are the Chinese any worse than the bastards here? Evil is evil regardless of what label you put on it. Ask the J6 DC Hanoi Hilton POWs what they think of the US government!


56 posted on 11/26/2023 9:12:30 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: dynachrome

We heard this all before, last Spring I believe, that the Covid came from raccoon dogs, again publicized as “shooting down” the lab theory of origin. Since the story sank without a trace, I assume it meant that nobody believed it then either. But I’m sure the Chinese can keep coming up with new “discoveries” as long as anyone is noticing.


57 posted on 11/26/2023 9:13:03 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative)
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To: exDemMom

My point is one cannot rely on a “consensus” of scientists when the consequence of bucking The Narrative is having your life destroyed.


58 posted on 11/26/2023 9:13:32 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Just in time for the 2024 Election!

How much American taxpayer money was spent to “cultivate” this one?

What is the democrats time table to begin the “seeding” of this new infectious cultivar among the USA population?


59 posted on 11/26/2023 9:19:55 AM PST by Iron Munro (ELEPHANTS AND ASSES SCREWING THE MASSES)
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To: Pelham; All

True- and one more weird part of chinese folk medicine- and you’re right- pangolin and bat SARS are not identical to SARS Cov2. And how odd this shows up, now, huh? Not wanting to rail a FRiend— but, here goes, deducted from colleagues collected data points who have connected many facts to form their highly informed opinions.

Historically, our own CDC investigators already in China for the yearly search to determine the next influenza season’s formula (every year sent in Fall- this one was in Fall 2019) identified a “Novel Coronavirus” on a subject Peoples Liberation Army soldier in Guangdong, and successfully got samples out of the country to... Fort Detrick Maryland (National Biodefense Analysis and Countermeasures Center (NBACC)). This came from 500 plus miles away from Wuhan (and the fantasy “wet market” source created by chi-Coms and the WHO who took over the public labeling of what this was— ie. a bioweapon).

The CDC investigators published this “Novel Coronavirus Discovered....” The virus given the provisional name 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). Once they got this publish ed— the Chicoms expelled all the CDC influenza investigators and all other CDC US people out of the country. And Chi-Com’s coopted pals in the WHO then labelled the virus as being FIRST discoverd in Hubei, China in ... Wuhan- a complete and utter lie, no surprise. The WHO working in sync with the chi-coms to quickly cover the actual location and.. of course the individual who was eliminated.

The investigators (who did not publish this)said the PLA infected soldier had been at the Mongolian border labor camp of Uyghurs. Concurrent with this discovered patient was the satellite data from our own NOAA and US monitoring satellites of sulphur dioxide smoke plumes rising from the labor camp coordinates- and quantified to the number of burning bodies (cross referenced from prior data from the Bangladesh Bay of Bengal typhoon which killed 138,000 people who were burned on funeral pyres in 1991. Sulphur dioxide particulate spectrographic correlates to the body count.. were applied to the Uyghur data). Result: estimated 65,000 Uyghurs were tested with the virus, and killed/burned.

All of this public info published online in late Fall 2019, has disappeared once the WHO operation took over in Dec. 2019 It’s clear the PLA tested this- screwed it up and infected PLA members. The virus was intended for Taiwan (pre-invasion)- and it failed in that regard. The vigilant Taiwanese let US know about it, thank the Lord.

One cannot find online the satellite info which NOAA put out— not since it was scrubbed in Dec. 2019. There may be some diligent FReepers who have screen saved what can no longer be accessed (so well managed was our derp state in their coordination).

The chi-coms are still at this- as evidenced by Xi’s recent visit to his employee’s country in San Francisco. Perfecting the next and doing zip about fentanyl manufactured by... themselves for export across our open borders. Asymmetric warfare is the definition of what they are doing, right now.
Competent warriors need to step up— if any are left w/in the DOD not eliminated by obamaumao the first, and silenced by joeybags of poop his puppet.


60 posted on 11/26/2023 9:27:46 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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