Posted on 11/18/2023 5:19:49 AM PST by McGruff
Ukrainian forces say they have secured several positions on the Russian-occupied eastern bank of the Dnipro river, and their leaders have been keen to talk up their progress.
The marines have spoken of gaining a foothold on "several bridgeheads" on the left bank, as they try to push the Russians back in a bid to protect civilians on the opposite side of the river from constant Russian shelling.
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The few hundred soldiers are outnumbered and surrounded in three directions, yet have managed to dig in for the best part of a month. This isn't the thousands needed to potentially liberate swathes of territory which Kyiv so desperately wants to do.
The front line has barely moved for a year and Ukraine finds itself in a tricky cycle. It needs Western help to deliver battlefield progress, but it also needs battlefield progress to convince western helpers.
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Be unconcerned. Your president has said clearly ---
'Putin has already lost the war,' Biden says ABC News, 13 July 2023And ignore, please, that other thing your president had said ---
In verbal slip, Biden says Putin losing the war in 'Iraq' Reuters, 28 June 2023
History will record that Zelensky saved Ukraine from the tyranny of the Russians
Your clap trap will not even get a foot note
But that is expected. Like US politicians, he got filthy rich in office while destroying his own country.
Ukrainian Nazi ethnic cleaners aren’t fit to shine George Washington’s shoes.
History about to rack up another 100 year war.
They have seized swampland along a river delta. They can’t bring across armor or any heavy weapons. They aren’t going anywhere. When enough of them collect in that place, Russia will blanket the area with artillery.
But Kiev and DC get their headlines. THAT’S what this war is about.
“When enough of them collect in that place, Russia will blanket the area with artillery.”
The position on the face of it seems stupid. Retreat would be almost impossible with a river along their back against a sustained counteroffensive.
Without the American Victory at Saratoga (The real hero was Benedict Arnold by the way—but another pompous General took all the credit and started the downward spiral that ended with Arnold’s betrayal to the English) France would never have given the aid America needed to win the war. Ukraine has no such victory under her belt. Lots of showy hollow victories but Nothing big. In time, Russia will grind them into the dirt. The River crossings look good on paper, but what happens when they can’t be reinforced in the winter? ONLY Hope for Ukraine is direct US forces and WW III. Mr. Zelenskyy is doomed without all of NATO coming in to secure victory for his cause. More and more his actions seem unworthy of support—he’s looking more like a dictator himself. Sad really—he spent all of his moral high ground by jailing his oposition and closing churches.
Your thread ties in nicely with the one I just posted.
“Ukraine has sent commandos into the Russian-held points along the east bank of Dnipro river, and recently retook a village there, but the Russians claim they will wipe out the incursion soon enough. Either way, military sources tell me that neither side is likely to make any significant territorial gains in the coming weeks......Ukraine, he says, has been given enough to stem the invasion, but not win the war.”
Like Custer’s Last Stand.
Is their a military strategist here that can explain why Ukraine doesn’t do a major invasion on the peninsula on the west end. It seems not to be well defended. Drop 1,000 men there and move east.
I don’t want to hear from the “the war is lost folks” I want to have a discussion of military tactics.
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