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Not All Palestinians Are Hamas, But Hamas Does Represent The Palestinians
The Federalist ^ | 10/24/2023 | Jonathan S. Tobin

Posted on 10/24/2023 9:50:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/24/2023 9:50:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
3 things that are fairy tales:

1. Santa Claus
2. Easter Bunny
3. "Palestine"

2 posted on 10/24/2023 9:57:24 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: SeekAndFind

Germany and Japan had to be utterly defeated before a lasting peace could be achieved and it’s the same with Hamas.


3 posted on 10/24/2023 9:59:16 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: dware

This pretty much sums it up

Video A Palestinian man celebrates on the streets of Gaza as Hamas fires rockets over his head toward Israel.
Soon after, he posts a video of himself crying in a hospital after an Israeli airstrike
https://rumble.com/v3r1eta-a-palestinian-man-celebrates-hamas-rocket-fire-then-cries-at-hospital.html


4 posted on 10/24/2023 10:00:02 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: SeekAndFind

The simple fact of the matter is if as many Americans voted for Trump in 2020 as Palestinians voted for Hamas, Trump would have won in a general electorate historic landslide.


5 posted on 10/24/2023 10:00:31 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: SeekAndFind

But who is the real enemy?

Wouldn’t it be whoever is funding Hamas and starting all wars while at the same time mind-controlling the regular populations of the Middle East and of the US?


6 posted on 10/24/2023 10:02:59 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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RE: Wouldn’t it be whoever is funding Hamas and starting all wars

The Biden administration still does not want to name the funder even though we all know WHERE the source of funding is from.


7 posted on 10/24/2023 10:04:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
These people had a choice all these years. There had to be thousands of them who knew where rocket launchers were being set up or munitions being stored or regular meeting places of Hamas. They could have gotten that info to the right places to be dealt with.

Instead they kept quiet and even cheered in the streets when Hamas killed any Jews. I have no sympathy.

8 posted on 10/24/2023 10:05:36 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: SeekAndFind

We are on the cusp of WW3. If the conflict widens and we go to war with Iran WW3 is pretty much guaranteed. Should that happen, many Americans will blame Israel for dragging us into it. If you think anti-Israel sentiment and antisemitism is bad now, you haven’t seen nothing yet.


9 posted on 10/24/2023 10:12:19 AM PDT by jimwatx
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Not All Palestinians Are Hamas, But Hamas Does Represent The Palestinians

Could be said “Not all Americans are Obamanistas, but Obama does run America”. Just because we do not support what is going on, we sit and bitch about it, but DO NOTHING. The time for talk is past, WAAaaaay past the time it can do any good. The only opposition is an old man who if elected will only serve 4 years, 2 of them fighting for his agenda. Are we all like Jenna Ellis, so afraid of prison that we are buckling at the knees? If my Dads generation was alive, this would not be happening. This is not even my generation anymore. I am a 70 year old cancer patient. Where are the 30-60 year olds with experience? What about that oath taken by us all?

We live in a country filled with boys and men of passion, likely 10 million let in, flown in with one purpose, to destroy and kill, to intimidate. I hope there are people out there training for the fight to come, because the question “who will the military and police side with” has been answered. They will salute the machine that writes their paychecks.


10 posted on 10/24/2023 10:14:20 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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“Where are the 30-60 year olds with experience?”

They probably saw that when the left takes action, with Antifa and BLM, then the organized left supports them, gets them bail money, lawyers, etc.

And they saw when the right took action, the organized right abandoned them completely.


11 posted on 10/24/2023 10:28:11 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

HAMAS MUST BE DESTROYED.

ANNIHILATED.

Accept no substitute.


12 posted on 10/24/2023 10:32:51 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hamas actually won an election in Gaza a long time ago. They never hold any elections there since!


13 posted on 10/24/2023 10:43:58 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: SeekAndFind

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14 posted on 10/24/2023 11:27:19 AM PDT by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was just in Israel. I stayed in a Palestinian city the first four nights and Jerusalem for four nights. I had no problems in either place. But I did notice that the Jewish owner of my hotel locked the door every time I entered or left. Gaza is a slum. In the rest of Israel minus the west bank, The country is modern, and Palestinians are completely embedded within the community. Yes they live mostly in their sector. But they work in most of the businesses. And they represent half of the people that walk the street.


15 posted on 10/24/2023 11:27:39 AM PDT by poinq (thics and customs and did not take an oath to the country. And did not follow the country's traditio)
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To: reasonisfaith

That depends.

If the funding is coming from someone the news says we should dislike... then yes, we can blame them.

If it is from someone the news tells us that we must support, then no, it’s someone else’s fault.


16 posted on 10/24/2023 11:28:34 AM PDT by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: SeekAndFind

Islam is the problem. The”bad” Muslim will kill you. The “good” Muslim will cheer him on.


17 posted on 10/24/2023 11:34:05 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is what we ALWAYS do.

We want to pretend as if this is not systemic to Islam, or the Palestinians, or, or, or.

Truth be told, it is:

—Read their doctrine (Koran and Hadith).

—Learn about their 1,400 years of history.

—Listen to their leaders both religious and political.

—Analyze the opinion polls that tell you what they think.

—See how they treat others once they attain a majority or even just have a large say: Lebanon, Egypt, Sudan...

—Look at their actions not only in Israel, but even in the US, Europe, anywhere where they have a presence.

—Ask yourself what religion can’t get along with anyone else? Why is it that you can have Jews, Christians, Hindu, Zoroastrians, Shinto, Bahia, all get along, but when you inject Islam with anyone, things blow up?

—Ask yourself why when these terror attacks do happen, and if they have the ability, do they do it by chopping off heads, throwing people from buildings, or lighting them on fire (this is how they are instructed to deal with an infidel, homo, or apostate).

Why we do this?

In a secular Western mind, it is inconceivable that people are organized around religion.

The liberal westerner essentially projects their own value system on them, but their value system is entirely organized around their religion: How they dress (Hijab), what they eat (Halal), their laws (Sharia), what freedoms and how far democracy can go (no depictions of Muhammad, LGBTQIA rights...).

It is this dichotomy in the West which allows for folks carrying LGBTQIA+ flags at pro Palestinian protests.

We try very hard to pretend this problem away, coming up with garbage like “Religion of Peace” post 9-11, but even that was untrue since Islam literally means “submission,” which is not even close to what we want to ascribe to them. We make movies like “Kingdom of God” which sells the Christian white guilt narrative, but it is factually wrong and incomplete, the crusades were a reaction to the Muslim invasions of Italy, Spain and the Holy Land, and where people were brutalized by them.

While it is the definition of ignorance, it will continue because Western society has a financial incentive (cheap labor, oil) and adopted this homo-globo philosophy using terms like diversity, racism, Islamophobia, tolerance and inclusion to suppress anything which contradicts it’s paradigm. You don’t need a logical argument, just throw one of those terms out there as a shield and you’ll be fine when defending the systemic problems we face today with Islam.

***Things need to become far worse and to where it’s personal for the majority of Westerners or at least for those that define our culture and laws.***


18 posted on 10/24/2023 11:36:21 AM PDT by Red6
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To: TangoLimaSierra
These people had a choice all these years. There had to be thousands of them who knew where rocket launchers were being set up or munitions being stored or regular meeting places of Hamas. They could have gotten that info to the right places to be dealt with. Instead they kept quiet and even cheered in the streets when Hamas killed any Jews. I have no sympathy.

How do you not see that the EXACT same argument could be made against the civilians of Israel (who actually do hold regular elections)????

Not to mention....this exact argument is what Osama Bin Laden used to justify the attacks on 9/11.

It is just really bad logic.

19 posted on 10/24/2023 11:37:42 AM PDT by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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Many will blame this and that country. I’ll blame D.C. They’ve been funding hate for decades.


20 posted on 10/24/2023 11:57:55 AM PDT by bgill
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