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To: Red6

Just wow...The Romans killed Jesus. Why do you say Pilot didn’t want to kill him? Really? Is that your feeling, or did you read that somewhere? Pilot looked at him as an instigator and a risk for rebellion. but, alas, you are stating the record as it has been presented since 326 a.d., so you are making the case why so many folks are anti-semitic. And the Romans didn’t stop with Jesus or the Jews. They killed as many Christians as Jews until the modern church formed in 326. I do have a question for you though. If God canceled his covenant with gentiles because of Jesus, then what makes you think that your covenant through Jesus is valid? However, you do use sources that are noted for their anti-semitism: Reuters, Wikipedia, christianity.com, and my favorite, Daily Mail. No wonder the world is anti-semitic. Christians have killed far more Jews that Muslims ever did. In any war. In any peace.


28 posted on 10/21/2023 12:45:39 PM PDT by richardtavor ( )
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To: richardtavor

First off, I don’t have any issues with Jews or Israel. I’m just listing the historical arguments used by those that did have issues with them.

Pilot washed his hands (he saw Jesus without guilt) and tried several times to save Jesus in a round about way, giving him an out. In order to keep the peace he was forced to go along with the Jews that wanted Jesus killed.

Some sources:

(more secular) https://www.history.com/news/why-pontius-pilate-executed-jesus

(more Christian) https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/why-did-pontius-pilate-allow-jesus-to-be-crucified.html or https://www.gotquestions.org/Crucify-Him.html

I am not sure where you came up with the idea that Pilot wanted Jesus killed. That was NEVER the Christian perspective. He reluctantly went along with it.

On another note-

The Romans killed a lot of people, even each other, even their own brothers and sisters. They were a violent bunch which respected and even adored strength. Don’t use the modern homo, self victimized, sheepish world view when looking at them.

From their stories about their origin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remus to family life, their art, men were presented as bold, courageous, strong in the pictures and sculptures. Everything was big, and just for entertainment roughly 400,000 people perished in the Coliseum - most were not Christians.

If you want to become someone, prove yourself in battle as a soldier or conquer Gaul and maybe you can even rise to be Cesar. The folks riding chariots at Circus Maximus (many died), the Gladiators, they were like the modern day rock star. This was a culture that was OK with spilling blood i.e. little concern for “micro concussions” from football, or having ones feelings hurt with a verbal assault: https://quinnanlaw.com/domestic-violence/verbal-abuse-crime-california/


34 posted on 10/21/2023 1:42:57 PM PDT by Red6
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