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Robert F. Kennedy's divorce from the Democrats TIES the 2024 race between Donald Trump and Joe Biden - as he sucks independents away from the ex-president
Daily Mail ^ | October 14, 2024 | Nikki Schwab

Posted on 10/14/2023 9:22:59 PM PDT by Angelino97

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s announcement Monday to run for president as an Independent complicates the presidential race, with early surveys showing him tying up the race between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

A Fox News poll from Wednesday found that in a three-way race between Trump, who is the frontrunner for the Republican nomination, Biden and Kennedy, Biden and Trump tie at 41 percent and Kennedy sucks up 16 percent of the vote.

A Zogby survey conducted for the pro-Kennedy PAC American Values 2024 had similar findings, with Trump and Biden tied at 38 percent and with Kennedy garnering 19 percent of the vote.

What's interesting is that when a generic independent candidate was polled against Trump and Biden, Trump actually won that race 40 percent to Biden's 38 percent, but when Kennedy - a prominent anti-vaxxer - was specifically asked about, he pulled support away from the Republican ex-president...

Additionally, the numbers shake out differently in the Fox poll.

In that survey, Biden was one point ahead of Trump if just the two of them were on the ballot - with 49 percent for Biden and 48 percent for Trump.

When Kennedy was added, Biden lost that edge and he and Trump tied.

But a two or three-way general election isn't likely, because academic Cornel West has already entered the fray and will likely appear as the Green Party's candidate on the 2024 general election ballot...

Fox found that independents were more likely to go for Kennedy, 41 percent, than West, 28 percent - and that was detrimental to Trump, who performs 9 percent better among independents against West than when Kennedy is in the picture.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; antivaxx; antivaxxhero; bidensproxies; bs; donaterfk; fakenews; fakepolls; hillary; nikkischwab; rfkjr; robertfkennedyjr; spoiler; tds; trump; voterfk
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1 posted on 10/14/2023 9:22:59 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

More corporate media propaganda that Biden is tied with Trump. They want people to believe that so the Deep State can steal the election again, but who seriously believes that Biden is tied with anyone? Everyone, except for a few hard core Dems, want him gone.


2 posted on 10/14/2023 9:25:55 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Angelino97

Not good. But if they’re essentially tied, then Trump has to have the edge in the electoral college. And RFK may not make the ballot in a lot of states. we will see.


3 posted on 10/14/2023 9:27:01 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: Angelino97

Most of Brandon’s few actual supporters/admirers will be snapped out of their stupefaction by months and months of policy-based broadsides between now and 11/2024 from Trump and Kennedy, neither of whom will attack each other with anywhere near as much force.

Trump will prevail as between him and Kennedy if the Margin of Fraud can somehow be surmounted.


4 posted on 10/14/2023 9:29:26 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Angelino97

I’m reckoning that he was told to break ties, knowing this would happen.


5 posted on 10/14/2023 9:31:07 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It never rains in sunny Alberta. It always rains in rainy Alberta.)
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To: Angelino97

The only Repubs Kennedy will attract are those who wouldn’t vote for Trump anyway.

Kennedy has only a few positions many Repubs would agree with. Otherwise, he is as liberal as most of the Dems.

He may be pulling independents, but he would also pull Dems who don’t want to vote for Biden.

The poll tying Trump and Biden is bogus.


6 posted on 10/14/2023 9:33:36 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: imabadboy99
Election 1992 redux.

7 posted on 10/14/2023 9:35:04 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Lord, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Angelino97

That is why he is running as an independent.

He helped to cement the notion that President Trump is an antivax/antiscience kook. And along with that, he managed to convince too many conservatives that being antivax/antiscience is somehow an issue of freedom rather than of rejecting health. And now he is running to undermine President Trump’s efforts to get reelected.

Do not believe a radical leftists who suddenly claims to be on your side. He isn’t. He never was and never will be.


8 posted on 10/14/2023 9:37:51 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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I dug into this pretty deep.

The MOE quoted for Dem and GOP is 4.5%

But for Independents it is 9%. All the talk of who Independents will support is essentially not measured because they seem to have gotten so few in their sample — generating an MOE of 9%.


9 posted on 10/14/2023 9:44:35 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: Angelino97

Ross Perot ran as a third Party candidate against Bush and Clinton which caused Clinton to win two terms. This is not good for Trump.


10 posted on 10/14/2023 9:46:20 PM PDT by abbastanza
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To: Angelino97

This was ALWAYS the plan for RFK Jr. Don’t buy the BS he’s selling. He’s there to help Joe not to become POTUS himself.


11 posted on 10/14/2023 9:49:34 PM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: exDemMom

“...being antivax/antiscience is ... an issue ... of rejecting health.”

gaslighting


12 posted on 10/14/2023 10:02:00 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: abbastanza

The weaker candidate (Bush) suffered the most at the hands of Perot.

The same will happen now.

Brandon is by far the weakest POTUS candidate ever.


13 posted on 10/14/2023 10:04:27 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Angelino97

How can a Greeniac like RFKjr pull votes form MAGA Trump?


14 posted on 10/14/2023 10:04:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“Election 1992 redux. “


Many regret voting for Bush. I’ve yet to hear from someone regretting a Perot vote.


15 posted on 10/14/2023 10:06:06 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: abbastanza
Ross Perot ran as a third Party candidate against Bush and Clinton which caused Clinton to win two terms. This is not good for Trump.

Ross Perot ran as an anti-establishment candidate in 1992 and tilted the electoral college for Clinton, a Washington outsider. I think the same thing will happen in 2024. RFK's candidacy will hurt Diaper Man far more than Trump.

16 posted on 10/14/2023 10:06:44 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: newzjunkey

He wants Brandon gone.

Brandon’s having mandated the murderous COVID vexxationation caused the scales to fall from Kennedy’s eyes.


17 posted on 10/14/2023 10:07:32 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Angelino97

No he doesnt, no body who was voting for Trump will now vote for Kennedy cmon


18 posted on 10/14/2023 10:09:19 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: exDemMom

Excellent post. 👍


19 posted on 10/14/2023 10:10:30 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: italianquaker

99% of the voters have already made up their minds. They are looking past the primary and know it will be Trump vs Briben’. RFK jr ( aka Froggie ) is a side show that pulls may 1 or 2% at most.


20 posted on 10/14/2023 10:12:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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