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Robert F. Kennedy's divorce from the Democrats TIES the 2024 race between Donald Trump and Joe Biden - as he sucks independents away from the ex-president
Daily Mail ^ | October 14, 2024 | Nikki Schwab

Posted on 10/14/2023 9:22:59 PM PDT by Angelino97

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s announcement Monday to run for president as an Independent complicates the presidential race, with early surveys showing him tying up the race between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

A Fox News poll from Wednesday found that in a three-way race between Trump, who is the frontrunner for the Republican nomination, Biden and Kennedy, Biden and Trump tie at 41 percent and Kennedy sucks up 16 percent of the vote.

A Zogby survey conducted for the pro-Kennedy PAC American Values 2024 had similar findings, with Trump and Biden tied at 38 percent and with Kennedy garnering 19 percent of the vote.

What's interesting is that when a generic independent candidate was polled against Trump and Biden, Trump actually won that race 40 percent to Biden's 38 percent, but when Kennedy - a prominent anti-vaxxer - was specifically asked about, he pulled support away from the Republican ex-president...

Additionally, the numbers shake out differently in the Fox poll.

In that survey, Biden was one point ahead of Trump if just the two of them were on the ballot - with 49 percent for Biden and 48 percent for Trump.

When Kennedy was added, Biden lost that edge and he and Trump tied.

But a two or three-way general election isn't likely, because academic Cornel West has already entered the fray and will likely appear as the Green Party's candidate on the 2024 general election ballot...

Fox found that independents were more likely to go for Kennedy, 41 percent, than West, 28 percent - and that was detrimental to Trump, who performs 9 percent better among independents against West than when Kennedy is in the picture.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; antivaxx; antivaxxhero; bidensproxies; bs; donaterfk; fakenews; fakepolls; hillary; nikkischwab; rfkjr; robertfkennedyjr; spoiler; tds; trump; voterfk
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To: nutmeg

are you fully vexxationationated


21 posted on 10/14/2023 10:19:29 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Angelino97

Trump and the Dem. candidate will have to compete to take the lovely RFK Jr to the prom. 🌺🌻🌼🌷🧧🎁🥂🍹🍾💌💘

May fight behind the high school gym building.💪🤜🤛⚡⚡

Either RFK Jr. as VP or throwing his support to one of them.

The American people want Trump or RFK Jr.
No one else. 📮🗳️

And as always, there will be no Biden on the ballot. He is soon going to leave.
So Newsom fighting for attention.


22 posted on 10/14/2023 10:27:07 PM PDT by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: central_va

This is a 50-state race, and I would suggest that RFK won’t have the funds to run in all fifty (1st problem). Second issue, in southern and midwest states, RFK won’t be able sell his ‘brand’ to typical Trump voters (including independents). I also don’t think Biden will be there...it’ll be Newsom that carries the campaign after the convention.

I would agree...no winner out of the Electoral College, and it goes to a state-by-state January 2025 vote in the House, and we might go to several weeks without a winner. VP? Settled on the first day of such voting in the Senate.

I would argue that the RFK is selling himself mostly to disgruntled democrats, and indecisive independents....maybe even to the youth/college voters. Electoral wins? Maybe five states at best.


23 posted on 10/14/2023 10:30:42 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
I also don’t think Biden will be there...it’ll be Newsom that carries the campaign after the convention.

If Biden dies before the convention, Harris will be the incumbent president, which will be her claim for the nomination.

24 posted on 10/14/2023 10:37:48 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: one guy in new jersey

Zogby the Arab poll nuff said, they hate Trump for the Abraham accords and cutting off PLO money.

I just read a poll where 30 percent of Dems will vote for
Trump mostly on the economy.

I remember where all the polls just days before 2016 election had Kankles up by 12 percent.
MAGA ain’t voting for Solar Panel Grifter RFK jr,they

Besides Jordan will ram the impeachment
evidence thru to the American voters and Briben will
see his approval crater.
married to Trump.


25 posted on 10/14/2023 10:38:00 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (f)
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To: abbastanza

RE: Ross Perot ran as a third Party candidate against Bush and Clinton which caused Clinton to win two terms. This is not good for Trump.

//////////////////////
You are right.


26 posted on 10/14/2023 10:38:21 PM PDT by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: one guy in new jersey

Zogby the Arab poll nuff said, they hate Trump for the Abraham accords and cutting off PLO money.

I just read a poll where 30 percent of Dems will vote for
Trump mostly on the economy.

I remember where all the polls just days before 2016 election had Kankles up by 12 percent.
MAGA ain’t voting for Solar Panel Grifter RFK jr,they

Besides Jordan will ram the impeachment
evidence thru to the American voters and Briben will
see his approval crater.
married to Trump.


27 posted on 10/14/2023 10:38:21 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (f)
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To: Angelino97

The below is the real RFK Jr. A handful of so-called “conservative” media outlets gave him a regular platform in an effort to annoy Biden in the Dem primary - this unfortunately boosted his credibility the center-right unnecessarily and now comes back to bite us since his no long running against Biden in the primary.

RFK, Jr.: Climate Skeptics ‘Should Be at the Hague with All the Other War Criminals’ https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3206882/posts

RFK, Jr. wants me jailed … as a war criminal https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3211190/posts

RFK Jr.: Hog farmers bigger threat than Osama https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2178592/posts

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Wants To Jail His Political Opponents https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3206573/posts

Lessons in civility from RFK, Jr. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3509601/posts

Robert Kennedy Jr. Blames Reagan For 9/11 [for rolling back CAFE standards in 1986] https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1855875/posts

RFK Jr. spreads blame for environmental woes in New Bedford speech https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1913559/posts

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Blames Fairness Doctrine Abolishment for Conservatism Popularity https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2479527/posts

RFK, Jr: ‘We have so much to learn from Cuba’ https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3243628/posts

RFK Endorses AOC’s Green New Deal, Calls for Climate Taxation https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4187998/posts

Watch RFK, Jr. lose it at climate change march when confronted about his hypocrisy https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3206578/posts

Andrea Mitchell Applauds RFK Jr.’s ‘Impassioned Plea’ for Obama to Stop Keystone Pipeline by Fiat https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3120692/posts

RFK Jr. Slams “Right-Wing Control of American Media” https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2967445/posts

RFK Jr: Right-Wing Controls American Media, Fox News Has Divided US to a Point not Seen Since Civil War https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2967311/posts

RFK jr: Sen. Inhofe is a “Call Girl” for Big Oil (But it’s OK to say it, he’s a Democrat after all) https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2855976/posts

Robert Kennedy, Jr.’s ‘Green’ Company Scored $1.4 Billion Taxpayer Bailout https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2808401/posts

RFK Jr. Claims Air America Was More Popular Than Conservative Radio https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2740193/posts

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Endorses Charlie Crist, Attacks Tea Party (Video) https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2606809/posts

RFK, Jr. 15 months ago: Global warming means no snow or cold in DC https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2446226/posts

Robert Kennedy Jr.: right-wing hosts spread hate https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2271218/posts

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr: Innocent ACORN Defrauded by ACORN Workers https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2109548/posts

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: ‘There Is No Liberal Media’(video barf!) https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2021728/posts

Kennedy Calls Skeptical Politicians ‘Traitors’ and ‘Corporate Toadies’ https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1864440/posts

RFK Jr. Says AGW Skeptics Should Be Silenced https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1864945/posts

Video: Stossel Takes Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On For Traitor Remark https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1864510/posts

RFK Jr. Calls Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck Lying ‘Flat Earthers’ https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1863207/posts

RFK (Robberbaron F. Kennedy) Jr. vs. Mike Gallagher on Energy Independence https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2033812/posts

The Incredible Shrinking Credibility of RFK, Jr. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1644744/posts

RFK Jr.: Bush, Barbour to Blame for Katrina https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473838/posts

RFK Jr: You know, my uncle was also shot amid a climate of right-wing hate https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2655920/posts

Flashback - Palin’s Big Oil infatuation [End of snow forever in DC] https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3387273/posts

RFK Jr says Donald Trump has ‘discredited the American experiment’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7903551/Robert-Kennedy-Jr-says-Donald-Trump-discredited-American-experiment.html


28 posted on 10/14/2023 10:39:19 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: pepsionice

RE: Electoral wins? Maybe five states at best.

Any loss of states for Trump would be a disaster. The solidly Dem states are ready now to vote Dem: CA, NY,IL,MA,OR WA,HI and many more locked in already.


29 posted on 10/14/2023 10:41:50 PM PDT by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: Republican Wildcat

Your list of links based on the titles alone make RFK Jr. seem like a nauseatingly distasteful pill to swallow.

He is dazzlingly attractive to some people but we have to get Trump into office.
Third party on ballots will ruin that chance.


30 posted on 10/14/2023 10:44:41 PM PDT by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: Reverend Wright
I voted for Perot. Couldn't see myself pulling the lever for Bush. "Wouldn't be prudent …"

31 posted on 10/14/2023 10:50:20 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Lord, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Zenjitsuman
Zogby the Arab poll nuff said, they hate Trump for the Abraham accords and cutting off PLO money.

A silly, baseless comment. He isn't even Muslim. He's Lebanese Catholic.

32 posted on 10/14/2023 10:53:04 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

You wish.


33 posted on 10/14/2023 11:02:00 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)
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To: frank ballenger

How much crack are some people on. RFK Jr is not winning any electoral votes. If he did it would be a left leaning State.


34 posted on 10/14/2023 11:13:15 PM PDT by Smiling Jack500
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To: Angelino97

He only sucks commies.


35 posted on 10/14/2023 11:16:02 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Angelino97

The problem is Trump will not win the abortion states like PA.


36 posted on 10/14/2023 11:17:19 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: exDemMom
Do not believe a radical leftists who suddenly claims to be on your side. He isn't. He never was and never will be.

I trust anyone a hell of a lot more than I trust someone who is still pushing the mRNA vaxes long after they were shown to be a crime against humanity... Whatever credibility you think you have is a complete illusion

37 posted on 10/14/2023 11:18:13 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Angelino97

Yup. Dumbasses!


38 posted on 10/14/2023 11:25:13 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: central_va

How can a Greeniac like RFKjr pull votes form MAGA Trump?>>>. He’s not he’s supposedly pulling from independents. who will actually vote anti trump due to abortion. Trump will not win as abortion is the issue in PA and other swing states.


39 posted on 10/14/2023 11:27:57 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Angelino97

Kennend, Left it that way for a reason! he is nothing more than a democratic leech! He is a whining liberal wolf in sheeps clothing F him!


40 posted on 10/14/2023 11:31:02 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Always tired but so grateful American !)
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