Posted on 10/11/2023 11:07:23 AM PDT by elpadre
The main lesson for Israel from the hideous Hamas attacks suffered over the weekend is a simple one: Terrorists can’t be managed.
For decades, Israel worked with Hamas and the Palestinian Authority (PA) by combining incentives on the one hand with controlled military responses on the other. Major attacks, including rockets from Gaza last May, prompted retaliation, usually with air power, and a subsequent cease-fire, often brokered by Egypt.
When Iranian-sponsored militias set up weaponry in the West Bank, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) conducted on-the-ground operations in Jenin and Nablus.
In the case of Hezbollah, Israel allowed the US to broker a maritime border semi-deal last year that allows Lebanon to pump natural gas and receive the financial benefit, which will accrue to Hezbollah and run the government in Beirut.
All in the name of tamping down fires that could ignite the big blaze.
The policy derived from several elements. The first is “world opinion,” specifically American government opinion, that could turn against Israel unless it responded to terrorism in a manner congruent with pronounced Western standards. Israel believed that any military response had to happen quickly to avoid blowback from allies and friends as much as from enemies.
Israel has also always believed that someday, somehow there would be a political solution. Israeli leaders could be angry with Palestinian leadership – Hamas or the PA – but they also talked to them, subsidized them, looked the other way at language that veered into Nazi trope and even invited them to lunch
(Excerpt) Read more at asiatimes.com ...
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“...Israel itself provides gas and clean water as well as food aid and Israeli work permits. Before the weekend, 18,000 Gaza Palestinians entered Israel daily, sending $2 million per day into Gaza. To some extent, it was to help the people. To another, it aimed to moderate or placate Hamas.
It was no closer to true than the US financial support for Iran offered by the Obama and Biden administrations placated or moderated the mullah regime in Tehran....”
Most of the “West” is no longer friendly to Israel — or to Trump’s America.
I think now and in the days to come more and more “Liberal” Israelis are seeing they were wrong about Hamas eventually getting along with Israel.
“To another, it aimed to moderate or placate Hamas.”
So how’s that working out?
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No amount of cruelty will dissuade liberals as they revel in it. How many times have you seen or heard liberals say something along the lines of, “send all the (fill-in-blank) to the gas chambers?” They are, on average, horrible people who live among us and create with their policies, a miserable life for the rest of us.
No, they are not over. Paused.
The EU will never cut Hamas off, nor will they now. Too many muslims living in their sphere. Nor will the Dems when we have a Dem administration.
Israel and the West provided aid and assistance to Gaza’s Palestinians to moderate and placate Hamas but that aid was used to arm and enrage Hamas...
One can never reason with psychopaths. They have an agenda and that’s all that matters.
LMAO
those days are only over until Israel STARTS to seriously retaliate and do what is actually necessary to end this.
This everyone on the left will rush to the nearest microphone and accuse Israel of war crimes and demand a truce.
Those days are over? I haven’t heard FJB say he’s cutting off aid, but maybe I missed it.
Also, haven’t heard anyone on the left admit that Trump was right (again).
18,000 invaders who did daily reports on Israel readiness
"There aren’t many rays of hope in the situation. However, the fact that the UN constructed an international military coalition to manage Haiti temporarily in the absence of a national Haitian government and in the face of brutal rule by gangs, leaves some slim hope for an international solution until new Palestinian leadership emerges."
The UN "solution" to Haiti was to permit the sex/drug trafficking to continue unabated, while also cutting in Madame Defarge Foundation Cankles into the grift.
And then 'hoping for an international solution' .. one that involves the PLA, no doubt.
I would block-ban you and when you re-emerged another another troll name, I would block-ban that, rinse, lather, repeat. Your IP should be given the Matthew Wayne Shepard treatment, frankly.
At the end of WW II this issue was considered with earnestness. At that time, it was decided such feral psychopaths never meet the criteria of civility requiring protection under the Geneva Conventions. They cannot meet definitions for militia, armed force, or volunteer corps, but are so dissociated from country or culture, so committed to butchery that they best match Webster’s definition for a virus. They are not insurgents or freedom fighters, and when captured, certainly not prisoners of war. These killers are not members of an organized resistance movement carrying arms openly, and they have no distinctive identifier. The Geneva Conventions found no category to define them and simply regarded them as beyond the pale.
The Geneva Convention framers were parents and grandparents of the “Greatest Generation” and held powerful positions throughout the darkest times of our world. Their words synthesized a brutal, durable morality properly earned from suffering through the ultimate bloody deluges of the 20th century. The people writing the Conventions intended to isolate terrorist forces and allow destruction with any overwhelming furies needed to crush their abominations.
Should have listened to Kahane.
“..At the end of WW II this issue was considered with earnestness. At that time, it was decided such feral psychopaths never meet the criteria of civility requiring protection under the Geneva Conventions. ..”
Well said!! - and not only those of whom we speak here, but also the psychopaths we have running the streets of America who don’t meet the criteria of civility.
No doubt. Would you like Hamas as a neighbor?
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