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Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored warnings of ‘something big’
NY Post ^ | Oct 9, 2023 | Yaron Steinbuch

Posted on 10/09/2023 10:19:18 AM PDT by McGruff

Amid mounting questions about Israel’s failure to anticipate the unprecedented attack by Hamas, an Egyptian intelligence official said his country had warned the Jewish state repeatedly about “something big” happening shortly.

The official said Israeli officials had been focused on their struggles in the West Bank and played down the threat from the militant group in Gaza.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government is made up of supporters of West Bank settlers who have demanded a crackdown in the face of a rising tide of violence in the area over the last 18 months.

“We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings,” the Egyptian official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told the Associated Press.

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TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; hamas; israel; waronterror
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To: dfwgator

I don’t follow Israeli politics close enough to know the details, I’ve always thought that, despite politics, Israel was well focused and prepared for their own self-defense, even if a bit brutal. Here we’ve seen they’ve become a paper tiger. No one armed, no one prepared, an absolute disaster. Our billions of dollars to them have clearly been wasted. Corruption or what?


21 posted on 10/09/2023 10:37:13 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Hamas.)
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To: Reno89519

For the first 25 years of her existence, Israel had major wars, so the country was pretty much on a constant war footing.

It’s been 50 years since Yom Kippur. And while they have had to deal with terrorists, that’s a different thing than taking on full armies from Arab States.


22 posted on 10/09/2023 10:38:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Reno89519
Our billions of dollars to them

Perhaps our billions of dollars to their enemies is offsetting.
23 posted on 10/09/2023 10:40:14 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: dfwgator

Those 50 years have gone by fast.


24 posted on 10/09/2023 10:41:20 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Hamas.)
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To: McGruff
What Israel underestimated was the level of demonic savagery that their enemy would stoop so low to inflict upon innocents.

Normalcy bias is now gone forever.

This is now on like never before as a matter of survival on a literal biblical scale.

The entire world best be right with Jesus about now.

The most epic moment of all our lives is just warming up.

25 posted on 10/09/2023 10:42:02 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: McGruff

Like Pearl Harbor warnings from the cracked Japanese Embassy Code before the actual 12/07/1941 attack.


26 posted on 10/09/2023 10:45:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Flu vaccines, work great if you’ve never had that flu! Otherwise they don't do any good/nor work!!!)
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To: McGruff
The Biden Junta withheld vital intelligence information from Israel.

27 posted on 10/09/2023 10:45:11 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Lord, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: McGruff

An Israeli official the other day indicated that Israel’s SIGINT operation (pound for pound the best in the world) was not able to take advantage of as much intel as they normally get, because Iran/Hamas etc. know this and rather than communicate over the air, they used couriers and other means that weren’t susceptible to interception.


28 posted on 10/09/2023 10:45:24 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: livius
"Personally, I think the Israelis have a problem on the inside."

Maybe the people who should have been listening weren't the best qualified but were politically connected or nepotism hires.

29 posted on 10/09/2023 10:46:44 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

In fact, US intel may have assured Israeli intelligence that the threat level was low.


30 posted on 10/09/2023 10:46:45 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: citizen
The Israeli intel didn’t “miss” it but underestimated the scale and the risk of the attacks. Imo, intel factions inside the gov’t. allowed it to sow terror incidents to facilitate removing Netanyahu and protect the judiciary.

Another theory is that Netanyahu allowed this, because he thought it would unite the nation behind him (as often happens in war), and allow him to take out Gaza.

But who really knows what the world's various deep states and intel communities are up to?

31 posted on 10/09/2023 10:47:31 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Signalman
Kinda like how our planes were taken over with box cutters.

We've come to rely on great technology, so the enemy uses old-fashioned techniques as a work around.

32 posted on 10/09/2023 10:50:36 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: dfwgator

“Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”


33 posted on 10/09/2023 10:53:13 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: livius

There are some who think Netanyahu’s government might have let it happen to deal a blow to his own left wing appeasers. Now they have no way to argue that Netanyahu can’t take a hard line in dealing with the problem.


34 posted on 10/09/2023 10:54:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Manic_Episode

I’d say WW3 is ~85% likely at this point. The questions are where will it be fought, with what intensity and weaponry and what will happen to the very weak social and political fabric of the USA during such an event.


35 posted on 10/09/2023 10:56:44 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: McGruff

Focused on the Climate Crisis and ignored everything else ?


36 posted on 10/09/2023 10:57:58 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: dfwgator

Roosevelt has his endgame a good one fighting Nazi Germany sadly created out of aftermath of the war we should have avoided (World War I).

And that drove him maybe even more than grasping the notion of a sneak attack at Pearl Harbor.

Bibi have a distracting endgame here?


37 posted on 10/09/2023 10:58:10 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Angelino97
We've come to rely on great technology, so the enemy uses old-fashioned techniques as a work around.

It's the "element of surprise" that catches you flat footed.

38 posted on 10/09/2023 10:58:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Levy78

With millions of foreign military age men coming into the US, millions of Islamic cult members, I think it will be hard to keep the war off our shores when it comes.


39 posted on 10/09/2023 10:58:49 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Hamas.)
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To: AAABEST
I’m not a Netanyahu booster, and he’s a shrewd operatator, but there is no way he let this happen to his people. Almost nobody believes that.

But still - how did they plan, stage and execute something of this magnitude and not get seen? Hundreds, thousands really, had to have known.

I just don’t get it.

Agreed.

My bet is since Mossad works closely with MI6 and the CIA, is that Netanyahu was purposely kept in the dark by deep state operatives. Remember, $6B in assets unfrozen, $75M just given to the Palestinians days before the attack and Biden giving Netanyahu the sign of the cross in their last meeting on September 20th.

40 posted on 10/09/2023 10:59:12 AM PDT by bertmerc1 (Conservative Buddhist)
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