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Former Trump NSA Robert C. O'Brien: Air Force Needs 300-400 B-21 Raiders
National Interest ^ | 10/1/2023 | Harry Kazianis

Posted on 10/01/2023 3:50:38 PM PDT by whyilovetexas111

In comments given to the National Interest, former Trump National Security Advisor Robert C. O'Brien explained that the U.S. Air Force needs 300-400 B-21 Raider stealth bombers considering the growing threat from China's rising military might.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War
KEYWORDS: airforce; china; dodindustrialcomplex; military; russia; usairforce
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To: whyilovetexas111

We started with a paltry number of B-2’s, 132 (compare with 744 B-52s). But then ‘peace’ broke out - so, down to 75. Well, that was still too much...so down 21. Since then one crashed, so 20 today. Pretty much the same for EVERY big-ticket item we’ve built in the past 50 years.

But, yes, if we want to be a WORLD POWER, we sure as hell need to build hundreds of bombers...rather than making more excuses to not do so and then go running around the world trying to start World War 3.


21 posted on 10/01/2023 4:19:29 PM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Could have used the money we spent on the neocon wet dream in Ukie to pay for many of them.


22 posted on 10/01/2023 4:23:43 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: End Times Sentinel

And give all the tech to China.


23 posted on 10/01/2023 4:34:03 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: whyilovetexas111

Buy drones instead.


24 posted on 10/01/2023 4:44:35 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: whyilovetexas111

To give to Ukraine?


25 posted on 10/01/2023 4:47:32 PM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: whyilovetexas111

How about they figure out if the thing even flies and works, if it actually has range, and if it actually can carry what’s intended.


26 posted on 10/01/2023 4:52:51 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Not having an interest in aviation I used to look forward to reading the posts from the guys who did, on threads about military aircraft.

Judging by the thread so far, those members have moved on.


27 posted on 10/01/2023 4:54:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: whyilovetexas111; All

How about one trillion, given the usual Pentagon cost overruns ?

Reminds me of the UK after WW1, bankrupt, losing the international currency, the world’s most expensive military, and the most Imperialistic factions in the gov’t wanted to invade Russia, invade and occupy Armenia, occupy both Iran and Iraq as well as keep going with the rest of the Empire.

Imperial delusions and over-reach.


28 posted on 10/01/2023 5:04:49 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: whyilovetexas111

But we have to buy the parts to build them, from China


29 posted on 10/01/2023 5:18:28 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: silverleaf
Manned bombers seem so….1960’s

The B-21 is designed to be flown manned or unmanned, depending upon the mission. I expect unmanned operation will become more common as integration with unmanned drone swarms develops further.

30 posted on 10/01/2023 5:18:32 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

The Woke Force needs them for the new Trannie DEI Wing.....


31 posted on 10/01/2023 5:32:36 PM PDT by Iron Munro (<blockquote> <p> Sun Tzu: An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes)
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To: whyilovetexas111

....I think bought and paid for Senators and Representatives are pushing this and are motivated by bribes from across the planet. Biden’s 10,000,000.00 is just one drop in a swimming pool compared to ALL BRIBES going to legislators in Washington.

With palletized munition systems coming, China could be obliterated if we have a President with a functioning brain.

I’m all for spending money on defense rather than welfare but this hugely expensive airplane is not needed.


32 posted on 10/01/2023 5:59:44 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: silverleaf

I’m saying they COULD, not that they should.

And there’s no substitute for deep interdiction in manned aircraft. Especially when distance exceeds 2,000 miles.


33 posted on 10/01/2023 6:17:25 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Geez, what level of attrition is he talking about. We go from 20 B2 bombers to this!


34 posted on 10/01/2023 6:19:48 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: whyilovetexas111

If the US can’t compete economically with China, (and it clearly can’t)military encirclement is utterly pointless.


35 posted on 10/01/2023 6:22:55 PM PDT by Antioch (Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain…)
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To: ansel12

You can read quite a bit online now on the B21.

You are correct about the thread.


36 posted on 10/01/2023 6:24:13 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: whyilovetexas111

37 posted on 10/01/2023 6:27:16 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: whyilovetexas111
In December 2022, the cost of a B-21 aircraft was estimated to be $700 million. At the time, Air Force officials estimated that they would spend at least $203 billion over 30 years to develop, purchase, and operate a fleet of 100 B-21s.
38 posted on 10/01/2023 6:31:14 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: ansel12

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023/09/14/b-21-ground-tests-proceed-as-bombers-first-flight-deadline-approaches/


39 posted on 10/01/2023 6:33:01 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: e_castillo; Mariner

I just like to read knowledgeable posts when it comes to aviation, missiles, and ships/submarines when the threads about them are good.

I’m not sure but I think Mariner is one of those who sometimes has good comments on navy subjects and missiles that I like to read.

Since these areas don’t interest me much I like to read other’s opinions who have a keen interest in them and keep up to date about them and often experience with them.


40 posted on 10/01/2023 6:36:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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