Posted on 09/30/2023 2:51:41 PM PDT by Mariner
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) announced Senate Republicans will vote against advancing the chamber’s bipartisan stopgap spending bill as members see an emerging bill coming from the House as the main way to avoid a government shutdown.
McConnell told reporters that the House bill, which is a 45-day continuing resolution that includes disaster aid funding but no money for Ukraine, is the preferred option of his members, and that they will overwhelmingly vote against cloture in order to focus on that option.
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“Nucular Combat, toe to toe with The Rooskies!”
Senate votes to pass House’s stopgap funding bill, averting government shutdown
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/senate-votes-x-x-pass-houses-stopgap-funding-bill
“there’s a war in a country that has no real pressing national interest ”
Ukraine was the largest producer of Industrial Neon gas before the war. The two major plants were in Odessa and Mariupol. The Russians now control what is left of the Mariupol facility but the Ukrainians are still producing in Odessa.
Industrial Neon gas is a critical gas for the production of microprocessors. It is very difficult to refine to microprocessor grade. Basically only three countries refine it, Ukraine, Russia and China. Without Industrial Neon you cannot manufacture microprocessors.
Keeping the Russians and Chinese from controlling over 95% of the world’s industrial Neon capacity is certainly in our vital National interests.
Rand Paul
@RandPaul
When I said I’d do everything I could to stop the US government from being held hostage to Ukraine, I meant it. We cannot continue to put the needs of other countries above our own. We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the U.S. economy. I’m grateful to all Members of Congress who stood with me, but the battle to fund our government isn’t over yet - the forever-war crowd will return.
8:28 PM · Sep 30, 2023
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1708277700551389349
And the tyrants came in the night for the newspaper reporters but I didn’t say anything because I was not a reporter.
Then they came for the union members and I didn’t speak up for I was not a union member.
Then they came for the jews and gypsies and I was afraid and I was not a jew or a gypsies.
Then they came for me.
And there was no one left to speak up against them...
When a man plants hardwood trees under whose shade he will never live to sit, he has discovered the meaning of life.
IMO you’re misreading it when you suggest that McConnell might deserve praise. The Ukraine aid was a relatively minor point. Turtle went along with a House bill that has no spending cuts, no border control provisions, and none of the specific things that the Freedom Caucus sought (I think there were provisions about abortion and other issues that were excluded from this “compromise” bill). No wonder almost all the Democrats in the House, and all of them in the Senate, voted Aye.
And Ukraine aid can still be considered separately.
Ukraine seems to be a topic that generates unusual division on FR. I’m in the pro-Ukraine camp. Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire, a plan that includes conquering several of our NATO allies. Ukraine is just the first step and the first place to stop him.
Conventional Daisy Cutters have scared the SAS during Desert Storm ....... NUCFLASH !!! Joe will give Z 30+ of those to have plausible deniability to the world.......
Is anyone, OTHER THAN ME, willing to admit that Kevin McCarthy did a damn good job of “getting it done.”
I could not believe my eyes when I read that The Senate Republicans will defer to House Spending bill.
YIKES.
LOLOL!!!
Oh, well. Ukraine will continue to fight for its existence. Z will continue to lead that fight. And a majority of GOP House members will be on the wrong side of history. Europe is doing more, though. Which they ought to. England continues to do its part, which makes sense. They were on the receiving end once.
To some extent I agree with them. The “funding” should have been lend-lease, which is how the US funded England until Pearl Harbor.
More tanks are a moot point, because while the US and Europe was dithering about to give tanks or not give tanks, Russia was laying anti-tank mines, and so long as Russia has artillery covering the mine fields, that makes the job of clearing them difficult. Air power or artillery is what’s needed now. But despite that, Ukraine has widened its bridge head across the Dnieper, and continues to consolidate its hold on Robotyne, and continues to slowly encircle Bakhmut, and is improvising air power with cheap hobby drones, and expensive missiles of various types.
Nobody is asking your permission. You get it for free!
Insane. Unsafe. What is the difference?
You will still most certainly die. I will pray for you.
‘It is a surrender’: Why McCarthy reversed with his survival uncertain
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/30/kevin-mccarthy-government-shutdown-deal-00119290
When he walked into the Capitol on Saturday, Speaker Kevin McCarthy knew exactly what he’d do to stave off a shutdown: Call up a bill that abandoned the border policy and spending cuts he’d preached for weeks.
McCarthy’s move marked an abrupt shift after spending most of the year trying to placate all corners of his party — including a dozen-plus hardliners who have made it next to impossible for him to maneuver anything onto the floor. After the vote, McCarthy all but taunted his critics to come after his gavel if they wanted to.
And their first chance to do that will be Monday night. Multiple House conservatives confirmed in interviews they will begin seriously mulling whether they will try to seize McCarthy’s gavel in the coming days.
“I think it is a surrender,” said Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.), one of multiple conservatives who warned McCarthy not to accept Democratic help to avoid a shutdown.
In the end, the 45-day funding patch that is on track to keep the government open passed with more Democratic than GOP votes, in a repeat of the spring debt vote that first inflamed McCarthy’s opponents.
The bill was finished just before midnight on Friday. But McCarthy didn’t unveil his plans to take up the bill until almost 11 hours later, after a choreographed parade of Republicans took the mic during a private 90-minute meeting to argue for exactly his proposal.
Dozens of conservatives ended up voting against the bill, which gave in on their two biggest priorities — spending cuts beyond McCarthy’s spring debt deal and hard-right border policies. Still, McCarthy wanted the groundswell of support for it to look like an organic move by his members, rather an order down from leadership.
Mere hours later, a majority of House Republicans backed the type of shutdown-averting bill that the California Republican had repeatedly sworn was unacceptable. McCarthy’s 180-degree turn could soon threaten his speakership, giving conservatives who have threatened to try to eject him plenty of fodder to make their move.
I'm sure we will hear from "Z" soon.
Figures. The headline giveth, the small print taketh away.
Agreed. The Ukraine is Putin’s Sudetenland. Should he succeed He’ll go full Kreig Heil.
Nah. Ol’ Glenn’s right but wrong. We’re at an inflection and a great reset, all right, but it’s going the exact opposite of how the globalists want.
They are admitting defeat on climate change. Even Soros is cutting staff, leaving Europe all but admitting Trump will win. Brit is pulling back. Numerous Euro countries (Italy, Slovakia, Hungary, others) have elected nationalist non-globalist governments. Argentina is about to. They couldn’t get rid of Netanyahu, Putin, and now Trump is making a comeback. Those were the “big three” they had to eliminate. Ain’t happenin.
Beautiful time to be alive to see this crash around their heads.
It’s between senate Dems and house pubs anyhow
Mitch has just been posturing for military industrial complex donors and state dept red diaper babies he knee pads for
I take comfort in tour optimism. I recall being taught that during the American Revolutionary War that a third supported independence, a third were loyalists to England and a third were noncommittal on it. Lucky the Independence third won.
The old “not the size of the dog in the fight.”
Lenin took control of a disunited, disorganized Russia with just 20,000 faithful in a nation of 160m.
Cortez defeated the Aztecs (a nation of 1 million with 100,000 “soldiers”) with just 1,000 Conquistadores.
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