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Seymour Hersh Claims Ukraine ‘War Effort’ Is ‘All Lies’: ‘The War Is Over – Russia Has Won’
Slay News ^ | September 23rd, 2023 | Frank Bergman

Posted on 09/24/2023 9:26:17 AM PDT by Mariner

Renowned investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has claimed that the U.S.-led war effort in Ukraine is “all lies.”

According to Hersh, the war is already “over” and “Russia has won.”

The veteran reporter alleges that the CIA and MI-6 have been running a “secret disinformation operation” to convince the public to keep funding “the war.”

He says the American and British intelligence agencies have been misleading the public about the disastrous state of the war effort.

“The war is over. Russia has won,” a senior U.S. intel official reportedly told Hersh.

“There is no Ukrainian offensive anymore, but the White House and the American media have to keep the lie going.

“The truth is if the Ukrainian army is ordered to continue the offensive, the army would mutiny.

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“Major elements of the Ukrainian army, without declaring so, virtually canceled the offensive,” Hersh reports.

“The two villages that the Ukrainian army recently claimed as captured are so tiny that they could fit between two Burma-Shave signs,” the source said.

“The soldiers aren’t willing to die anymore, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abughraib; greatnomorethreads; kgbasset; newyorker; seymourhersh; somuchwinning; winninglikebiden
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To: BusterDog

“The worst fascists are those that don’t think of themselves as fascists, like you, homeboy.”

Nice try, kid.


141 posted on 09/24/2023 5:45:01 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ChessExpert

“I don’t know that Russia is any more commie than the US.”

And yet, Russia’s closest allies are all hardcore communists: Red China, North Korea, Cuba; and the second tier: Venezuela, Nicaragua, and some of the African countries that change governments every couple weeks.

While Russia is not as rabidly communist as it was during the days of the USSR, there are still many in Russia and its government who pine for those halcyon days. And, irony of ironies: Today Russia is more fascist than it is communist; yet it routinely calls its opponents fascists. Talk about projection!


142 posted on 09/24/2023 5:56:01 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

“There are dozens of independent journalists that have reached the same conclusion. Col. Douglas Macgregor, Scott Ritter and Larry Johnson have reached the same conclusion.”

And all three of them are discredited.


143 posted on 09/24/2023 6:03:28 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: marcusmaximus

I come from an unbroken line of career officers going back to the revolutionary war. It is because of my love for them, our military, and this country that I know the importance if avoiding foreign entanglements.

What’s your excuse for supporting the usurper Biden’s Ukrainian grift?


144 posted on 09/24/2023 6:03:28 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: Vlad0

There’s no such thing as a “Seymour Hersh conservative”.


145 posted on 09/24/2023 6:09:52 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: ought-six
Well said. This and your previous post are clearly needed.

I’ve often wondered what happened to the America our parents and their parents handed down to us? Up is down, down is up, wrong is right, right is wrong … the changes seem so sudden.

Or worse, what’s coming next, because Churchill’s right.

Seems like that day is soon upon us, too, given our border now and all that’s come flooding in, along with what now seems to have once again taken power over us.

Interesting times.

146 posted on 09/24/2023 6:12:57 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: CapandBall

Ironic that you support Seymour Hersh after all his liberal hit jobs on the American military, isn’t it?


147 posted on 09/24/2023 6:13:16 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

https://cvafoundation.org/how-should-united-states-view-alliances-us-allies/


148 posted on 09/24/2023 6:14:32 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: CapandBall; marcusmaximus

“I come from an unbroken line of career officers going back to the revolutionary war. It is because of my love for them, our military, and this country that I know the importance if avoiding foreign entanglements.”

Whenever someone trots out their claimed pedigree, unsolicited, a red flag goes up. If it is in response to someone denying you served, then your recitation is warranted; if not, it is suspect.

As for foreign entanglements: That may have made sense in the 18th century, when our trade and economy was largely provincial and we were protected by two vast oceans. However, to take such an isolationist position since the early 20th century was and is more than naive: It borders on the suicidal.


149 posted on 09/24/2023 6:21:16 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Carriage Hill

72 here - I remember them as well


150 posted on 09/24/2023 6:23:01 PM PDT by Palio di Siena (P01135809)
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To: GBA

“Interesting times.”

They are indeed.


151 posted on 09/24/2023 6:31:57 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: marcusmaximus

meh. Hersh is only stating the obvious. I didn’t acquaint myself to his prior scribbling, though I did read his piece on the Nordstream pipeline sabotage.

Most of all, I don’t want my 18 y.o. son or 22 y.o. daughter, or my friends & neighbors kids, to die in Ukraine. Also, I don’t want the American taxpayers to borrow money from China and give it to Ukraine, and pay the interest with inflation.

Why do you have such a raging hate boner for the Russians? You know the Ukrainians are a former Soviet State, no different than the Russians. Why do you care if these two former commie countries slap each other around? I know why Joe and Hunter care, they have a sweet deal going on with Burisma.


152 posted on 09/24/2023 6:37:10 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: CapandBall

The Bidens took more bribe money from the Moscow mayor’s wife than they did from Burisma. And she’s still exempt from sanctions.

Demilitarization of Russia with 5% of our defense budget is the bargain of a lifetime.


153 posted on 09/24/2023 6:44:23 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

“Demilitarization of Russia with 5% of our defense budget is the bargain of a lifetime.”

Oh, I understand now… you are a financial dimwit with the economic acumen of an toddler. No true freeper would be so short sighted, so irresponsible, to utter such idiocy.

Sad


154 posted on 09/24/2023 6:57:31 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: CapandBall

Moskva is on the bottom of the Black Sea. Never to be replaced. A bargain.


155 posted on 09/24/2023 7:09:00 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Seruzawa

“Are you in the same cubicle as Maximus?”

I saw the same handoff zipping through this thread. They seemed to have activated the on-call shift.


156 posted on 09/24/2023 8:04:28 PM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: ought-six
Johnson has been, infinitely, more accurate than any of your sources.

This tactic is is typical of someone that can't defend their position -- attack the source rather the information presented by the source.

Ukraine isn't getting an inch of territory back. This after you and your ilk hyped the failed counteroffensive for months.

Almost every prediction YOU and YOUR sources has been wrong. And, I intend to hold you account when this war ends with Russia possessing all the territory it has annexed.

157 posted on 09/24/2023 9:13:37 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus

Luckily, no one put you in charge of defining conservatism, Ace.


158 posted on 09/25/2023 3:00:37 AM PDT by Vlad0
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To: Mariner
The veteran reporter alleges that the CIA and MI-6 have been running a “secret disinformation operation”

*snort* yeah, secret

. One would never know perusing FR this past year. Thread after thread of spooks posting to themselves.

159 posted on 09/25/2023 3:16:43 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: CapandBall

“””I come from an unbroken line of career officers going back to the revolutionary war. It is because of my love for them, our military, and this country that I know the importance if avoiding foreign entanglements.”””

That is a lot of NATO years during those careers.


160 posted on 09/25/2023 7:05:23 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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