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Seymour Hersh Claims Ukraine ‘War Effort’ Is ‘All Lies’: ‘The War Is Over – Russia Has Won’
Slay News ^ | September 23rd, 2023 | Frank Bergman

Posted on 09/24/2023 9:26:17 AM PDT by Mariner

Renowned investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has claimed that the U.S.-led war effort in Ukraine is “all lies.”

According to Hersh, the war is already “over” and “Russia has won.”

The veteran reporter alleges that the CIA and MI-6 have been running a “secret disinformation operation” to convince the public to keep funding “the war.”

He says the American and British intelligence agencies have been misleading the public about the disastrous state of the war effort.

“The war is over. Russia has won,” a senior U.S. intel official reportedly told Hersh.

“There is no Ukrainian offensive anymore, but the White House and the American media have to keep the lie going.

“The truth is if the Ukrainian army is ordered to continue the offensive, the army would mutiny.

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“Major elements of the Ukrainian army, without declaring so, virtually canceled the offensive,” Hersh reports.

“The two villages that the Ukrainian army recently claimed as captured are so tiny that they could fit between two Burma-Shave signs,” the source said.

“The soldiers aren’t willing to die anymore, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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To: Mariner

It’s pretty obvious that there really wasn’t a counteroffensive. There were some attacks but little was gained because if there had been gains the Zeepers would have been crowing nonstop. The lines appear to be static with Russia holding what it wanted in the first place. There might be more fighting but, yeah, the war appears to be over. A few more tanks and a few F16s will achieve nothing, except getting more people killed. Since the West has been taken over by a vicious cabal of population control lunatics more death is what Biden and the neocons cronies really want. Any way they can kill off more population is lolz to them.


101 posted on 09/24/2023 1:33:21 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: ought-six

In other news, chaos in the air over all of the Moscow airports right now.


102 posted on 09/24/2023 1:34:51 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: freeandfreezing

An offensive takes ground you eff’ing moron. The Ukrainians launched missions of self slaughter. Yes, Russians died, but nearly as many as the Ukrainians. You Zeepers have no problem fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian life. That is amoral. It also has no foresight as to what to do when you run out of Ukrainians to die. It means Americans come after that. That’s all for a corrupt nation where America has no national interests.


103 posted on 09/24/2023 1:36:18 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Vacate the chair. Shutter the government until it can be correctly defunded.)
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To: redfreedom

Epic irony.

The NVA had the balls to do what the hand wringing cojoneless Western “Leaders” didn’t have the bottle for. Good for them.


104 posted on 09/24/2023 1:37:28 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Seruzawa

Funny how Putin’s Black Sea “fleet” was evicted from the western Black Sea and Sevastopol in the counteroffensive that “never happened.”


105 posted on 09/24/2023 1:37:51 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: aquila48
It’s gaslighting 24/7 by both sides.

Very true.

106 posted on 09/24/2023 1:42:10 PM PDT by x
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To: marcusmaximus

Don’t your bosses in Kyiv ever give you a day off? There are some nice tea shops not far away. You should take a break.


107 posted on 09/24/2023 1:43:47 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Seruzawa

Tell Tucker Carlson he should have been listening to President Reagan in the 80’s instead of getting high and going to Grateful Dead concerts.


108 posted on 09/24/2023 1:47:34 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Vermont Lt

“Someone should tell the commies on that sub”

Ronald Reagan pushed, and the Soviet Union fell. The locus of world-wide communism moved to China, academia, the Obama administration and possibly the CIA.

I don’t know that Russia is any more commie than the US.


109 posted on 09/24/2023 1:52:04 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: Mariner

Everyone are blaming someone concerning the Nord Stream Pipeline sabotage.

Ukraine says its Russia.

Russia says it was “British navy personnel”.

America says it “points to a pro-Ukrainian group”.

Many countries in Europe think it’s Russia, since Russia has done everything it can to proactively cut europe from such supplies, in order “freeze” Europe during cold winter times...

Others say its Gazprom itself who did it, “for insurance reasons” and costly problems induced by the sanctions and/or Russia cutting gas supplies.

But no one, no where, is ventilating the idea that America did it. Seymour Hersh says it though.


110 posted on 09/24/2023 1:53:46 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: marcusmaximus

You should take your pals in the next cubicle to a nice restaurant for some blinis. It has to be tiring, churning out propaganda lies 7 days a week.


111 posted on 09/24/2023 1:54:47 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: ChessExpert

Listen to you guys defend the Russians. What a bunch of losers.


112 posted on 09/24/2023 1:57:13 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Seruzawa

Agreed.

The whole communist agenda from South East Asia allowed the Chinese commies to be what they are today. Chinese commies have and always will be our enemy. Here we are draining our resources on a war in Ukraine we have no business in while our southern border is being over run and the Chinese are gaining more and more influence worldwide not to mention our buying at Walmart is helping build their military.

If one digs deep enough, the master planner of all this was Kissinger. I can’t stand the sight of him or that sickening raspy voice of his.


113 posted on 09/24/2023 2:03:07 PM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: Mariner

The Ukes should be picking off the occupiers from ambush for years to come.


114 posted on 09/24/2023 2:11:21 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Technically speaking it’s impossible for Ukraine to do an offensive, since Ukraine is the victim of RUSSIA’S offensive.

Ukraine is not trying to take Russia, thus there is no offensive going on from Ukraine. Evidently.

However, Ukraine’s DEFENSIVE actions to retake their own territories (momentary stolen by Russia) is in full swing!

Crimea is being severely beaten by Ukraine right now.
Russia just lost its huge naval headquarters complex in Sevastopol. A massive building. The russian Admiral is supposed to have died in that Ukrainian attack.

Russia is losing ships, submarines, billion-dollar S-400 systems on a regular basis now (I would say weekly). Russia has also lost more than 4000 tanks, scores of helicopters, advanced planes...

I don’t call all that an “offensive”, it’s called defensive operations!


115 posted on 09/24/2023 2:21:35 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Vermont Lt

I’m defending reality.


116 posted on 09/24/2023 2:28:25 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: marcusmaximus

Mai Lai, they were all convicted.


117 posted on 09/24/2023 2:28:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Are you in the same cubicle as Maximus?


118 posted on 09/24/2023 2:30:24 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: little jeremiah
but the elites who are pushing the war with Ukraine.

Only one person pushed the war on Ukraine. His name is Vladimir Putin.

He may well be a godless atheist bent on world domination.

119 posted on 09/24/2023 2:32:32 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Mariner
There are dozens of independent journalists that have reached the same conclusion.

Col. Douglas Macgregor, Scott Ritter and Larry Johnson have reached the same conclusion.

120 posted on 09/24/2023 2:34:26 PM PDT by Kazan
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