So the Russians have just been killing themselves?
Posted on 09/24/2023 9:26:17 AM PDT by Mariner
Renowned investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has claimed that the U.S.-led war effort in Ukraine is “all lies.”
According to Hersh, the war is already “over” and “Russia has won.”
The veteran reporter alleges that the CIA and MI-6 have been running a “secret disinformation operation” to convince the public to keep funding “the war.”
He says the American and British intelligence agencies have been misleading the public about the disastrous state of the war effort.
“The war is over. Russia has won,” a senior U.S. intel official reportedly told Hersh.
“There is no Ukrainian offensive anymore, but the White House and the American media have to keep the lie going.
“The truth is if the Ukrainian army is ordered to continue the offensive, the army would mutiny.
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“Major elements of the Ukrainian army, without declaring so, virtually canceled the offensive,” Hersh reports.
“The two villages that the Ukrainian army recently claimed as captured are so tiny that they could fit between two Burma-Shave signs,” the source said.
“The soldiers aren’t willing to die anymore, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House.”
(Excerpt) Read more at slaynews.com ...
The sacrifice of the Ukrainians and their nation, with no possible hope of a good outcome, simply to cause as much trouble for Russia as possible, will go down as the most shameful foreign policy event in the history of the United States.
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Col. Douglas MacGregor is great. He knows what’s going on with the Ukraine/Russia war. A couple of recent interviews.
Excellent talk by Col.Douglas MacGregor. He talks about the cultural and moral rot, the cause, and I haven’t gotten to if he has any solution yet. Says the oligarchs at the top - mentions Zuckerber, Soros and others have an ideoloty, the lower levels just are after money. He says the four horseman of this apocalypse are atheism, nihilism, marxism, and globalism. These people are avowed atheists. Great speech. The first part is about speechifying about Ron Paul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPEJHXQKcCE
Col Douglas Macgregor: We Don’t Want War With Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARAylEJZy30&t=601s
Col Douglas Macgregor: “The Ukrainian Phase Of The War Is Over”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC_H1Y1GOGY
Col Douglas Macgregor: “The Russians Will Finish This War”
“Russia will continue to fight existential war to prevent NATO in rump Ukraine.”
For Ukraine it’s an existential war; for Russia it’s just a land grab.
I'd rather not. They keep getting killed due to the poor ability of their own military.
You are kidding right? Ukraine is a very religious nation.
“Col. Douglas MacGregor is great. He knows what’s going on with the Ukraine/Russia war.”
He has been wrong on pretty much everything about this war since the re-invasion began in February, 2022.
So the Russians have just been killing themselves?
True, and the amount of pro-Russian propaganda being posted suggests that the attack on the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea Fleet was even worse than it appeared. Somebody has their information warfare team working overtime.
Col. Douglas MacGregor is great.
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Yeah, I watch him all the time. Real straight shooter and very informed, including inside sources.
There is an interview he did at a war college with a professor, I think it’s in two parts and runs a couple of hours. Pretty easy to find and really good. Demonstrates his overall deep knowledge and understanding of the structure and purpose of the armed forces.
“You sound like someone who would readily surrender to anyone who so much as farted in your general direction.”
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That “appeasing Hitler” argument has been trotted out by the warmongers so many times.
You are going to have to give security guarantees to Russia at some point, you can’t place offensive forces on their doorstep. They’ve been telling you that for 20 years.
You had the Minsk agreement, you should have honored it. Bet you wish you could have that deal again.
Fascists do what fascists do, though.
You didn’t listen to the video. He wasn’t talking about Ukrainians, but the elites who are pushing the war with Ukraine.
And Zelensky, who just made the famed Satanist Maria Abramavich a special Ukrainian Ambassador, isn’t exactly the action of of a devout mean.
MacGregor is my go-to person about many topics, especially the geo-political scene, including Ukraine/Russia and what the corruptocrats in the US are up to.
Hersh also lied about the so called My Lai “massacre” in 1972.
Macgregor also was metrosexual Wesley Clark’s number 1 guy in Serbia. The architect of Clark’s air war on civilians. He loved cluster bombs back in the day.
“That ‘appeasing Hitler’ argument has been trotted out by the warmongers so many times.”
I said nothing about Hitler. But you must have some fixation with him since you so readily trotted him out.
“You are going to have to give security guarantees to Russia at some point, you can’t place offensive forces on their doorstep. They’ve been telling you that for 20 years.”
Do you mean like the security guarantees that Russia gave Ukraine in 1994? And, this propaganda about Russia going to war because it said Ukraine was going to join NATO is just so much fiction. Perhaps you are unaware that admittance to NATO requires the UNANIMOUS agreement by all 31 NATO members, and that is not going to happen in your lifetime.
There are currently five NATO countries on Russia’s borders; yet, Russia has not invaded any of them. If Russia were so concerned about NATO on its borders why hasn’t Russia invaded any of those countries? It’s either because Russia knows those countries pose no offensive threat to Russia; or because Russia does not want to invade a NATO country (which is justification for those countries joining NATO in the first place).
“You had the Minsk agreement, you should have honored it.”
What’s this “You,” kemosabe? I was not a part of those “agreements;” which, by the way, were so unenforceable that no one honored them.
“Fascists do what fascists do, though.”
And there is presently no state more fascist than Russia.
“Where they are in every war. Hanging out in the bar of the best and safest hotel in the country. Going up to the roof from time to time to deliver breathless reports.”
I recall reading exactly that when the Khmer Rouge were taking over Cambodia. They simply reported whatever rumors they heard as fact. They were some sad times. Millions died. The irony is the North Vietnamese came to the rescue and ran Pol Pot off after they secured the South.
“You had the Minsk agreement, you should have honored it. Bet you wish you could have that deal again.”
“Macgregor also was metrosexual Wesley Clark’s number 1 guy in Serbia. The architect of Clark’s air war on civilians. He loved cluster bombs back in the day.”
The very same Macgregor.
“You had the Minsk agreement, you should have honored it. Bet you wish you could have that deal again.”
“Macgregor also was metrosexual Wesley Clark’s number 1 guy in Serbia. The architect of Clark’s air war on civilians. He loved cluster bombs back in the day.”
The very same Macgregor.
Disregard the first sentence in both my post #96 and #97, as it was left over from my reply to another FReeper.
The worst fascists are those that don’t think of themselves as fascists, like you, homeboy.
I don’t buy it. In this digital age anything can be spoofed. Anything can be made to appear authentic. I want to see hard live actual news from a credible source. Zippy’s monkeys or Putin’s pals are not reliable.
I liked Baghdad Bob, he was comical. We all knew he was lying due to the live news casts from CNN, back when they were considered credible. I think Ted marrying Jane (our girl from Hanoi) had a significant impact on the flipping of CNN to full commie.
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