Posted on 09/17/2023 2:19:07 PM PDT by thegagline
Former president Donald Trump, the front-runner in the GOP presidential primary, said a state abortion law signed by his top challenger, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), which bans the procedure after six weeks, is “terrible.”
In April, DeSantis signed the controversial law, which will go into effect if the Florida Supreme Court upholds the state’s 15-week ban on abortion that he signed into law last spring. At a hearing this month, the Florida justices appeared open to upholding the limiting ban.
Trump, in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” criticized DeSantis for being “willing to sign a five-week and six-week ban.”
“I think what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake,” Trump said.
DeSantis’s six-week ban — which includes exceptions for rape, incest, medical emergencies and “fatal fetal abnormalities” — would outlaw the procedure in Florida before many people know they’re pregnant.
The new host of “Meet the Press,” Kristen Welker, asked Trump if he’d sign federal legislation that would ban abortion at 15 weeks, a limit that antiabortion groups and some lawmakers have rallied behind.
Trump said no, and said he’d seek to negotiate with Democrats on the issue.
Trump declined to say what time frame he thinks is appropriate for an abortion ban and instead insisted that he would “sit down with both sides and I’d negotiate something, and we’ll end up with peace on that issue for the first time in 52 years.”
“Both sides are going to like me,” he added. “I’m going to come together with all groups, and we’re going to have something that’s acceptable.” ***
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“sit down with both sides and I’d negotiate something.”
Do the unborn have a seat at that table?
Did he really say it?
After Trump’s ineffective and dangerous vax’s, I will have a hard time getting behind him if he doesn’t stop the baby murdering.
States can decide, as they are now doing post the SCOTUS decision, in accordance with the 10th amendment. Shouldn’t even be a national issue.
If Congress wanted to legalize abortion up to birth, they could have passed a law to do so. But they haven’t in 60 years including times were Dems were fully in control.
This abortion crap is costing us elections and the nation. Take a new outlook. Think about how all that right to life money can go towards helping young discerning couples support kids and have babies instead of millions towards banning abortion. Use the money towards this outlook. The left will continue to abort themselves, even in underground clinics if need me. Put the money where help is needed most and stop losing elections on the abortion issues!
agree. there will always be abortions. They will find a person to perform it.
That would take away the issue from the Democrats and most Americans would agree to this.
The goal should be no abortions, no exceptions.
I thought the latest ruling by the Supreme court said that it was up to the states and not the Federal Gov.. That’s what the Constitution says.
The nevertrumpers and swamp uniparty GOPe are going to push this issue to damage Trump....
As said before...
It’s a state issue.
And as has been mentioned before, many women don’t know if they are pregnant, until after 6 weeks.
Correct. But the Democrats will soon take the Supreme Court and legalize it on the federal level. Unless we take charge on the issue.
People are hard headed. If everyone said let’s just not kill babies tgem trump wouldn’t feel the need to
Tell republicans to be smart about getting elected
A politician telling people who feel the need to ask them what they think, can say ‘stop relying on birth control and quit screwing around, ya bunch of whores’ which is what abortion is, will get backlash from the majority who believe screwing around and relying on abortion. Trump is warning them it’s a bad position that tge public puts them i
The public, wanting approval from others for selling their souls, will look to politicians to affirm they’re not going to hell. They are but there’s no good answer. It’s not â politicians place
I am against abortion at any age, but I am also against forcing a woman to bear a child if she does not want to do so.
For me, as a man, the idea of the pain and torture of childbirth is something I’m glad I don’t have to go through. Do I thank God for making me a man and not a woman? Of course not. Both are needed in His eyes.
I’d really like to know what God—and not some human interpreting God for me—says about this issue. I only know that I do not know.
There will alway be rape too. Might as well make it legal. Ugh!
“Trump said no, and said he’d seek to negotiate with Democrats on the issue.”
The problem is... negotiating with the Democrats... which is like making deals with the devil... is what got us into the current FUBAR mess we’re in now. What would Jesus do?
Whatever time limit the Florida law set, Trump would have been against it because DeSantis signed the law.
Sixty years ago a sexual revolution swept America. It was a function of the Baby Boomers reaching puberty at the same time. By the late 1960s, American sexual behavior was similar to France or Sweden.
The battle over abortion started in states where legislatures, fearing the power of the churches, handed the issue to the people via referendum. The voters spoke, and abortion restrictions fell in state after state via the initiative and referendum mechanisms.
The battle royale was New York state where it had to be fought in the legislature because New York doesn't use the initiative mechanism and only uses the referendum mechanism to ratify bond issues. This was a knock-down drag-out brawl that played out at family dinner tables. The legislature loosened restrictions, and Gov. Rockefeller signed the law. Abortion opponents threatened consequences at the next election but only showed how toothless they were when nothing happened.
The US Supreme Court should have stayed out of it by refusing to grant cert to Roe v. Wade and punting it back to the Texas courts. But having created a national right to abortion, two generations of women came to believe they possessed that right. Men and women were glad to have abortion as a backstop for sexual freedom. Having experienced sexual freedom, people are loathe to give it up, so you need to have a good reason to take away what people perceive to be their right.
The key arguments against abortion are based on strong religious belief. Catholics used to be the largest faith in America, but now Unbelief has replaced them as Number One. Unbelief is also the fastest growing "religion" in America. For many, God the Hairy Thunderer has been replaced by God the Cosmic Muffin. It’s hard to make an effective religious argument when so many have put organized religion aside for a secular or somewhat “spiritual” approach.
To really end abortion, you need to convince people to end sexual freedom, erase the 1960s and return to an earlier frame of morality. That’s a hard sell. Once the cat is out of the bag, as a rule it doesn't want to go back in.
Can't wait for the Trump cultists to defend this one. Trump is a joke.
Conservatives fight for life. Populists, not so much.
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