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The two methodist Churches is by me, have a trans flag and a LBGT flag flying outside
1 posted on 09/09/2023 2:53:14 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

May have something to to do with the church’s warmongering as evidenced by our resident church lady.


2 posted on 09/09/2023 2:56:34 PM PDT by farmguy ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Grew up Methodist but gave up on them many years ago.


3 posted on 09/09/2023 2:56:59 PM PDT by 6ppc (Democrats would have to climb Everest to reach the level of "scum of the earth")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

UMCREVMOM?


4 posted on 09/09/2023 2:57:44 PM PDT by mylife (I was a sort of country boy, a cockeyed optimist, wrapped in international intrigue and espionage)
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It will be interesting to observe which Methodists will comment on this thread....
5 posted on 09/09/2023 2:57:45 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Apostasy and heresy are why Christians are leaving this debauched and pagan consortium of child molesters.


7 posted on 09/09/2023 3:01:37 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Oliveto is the church's first openly gay bishop and oversees congregations in Colorado, Montana, Utah, Wyoming and one church in Idaho.

Well, there ya go.

8 posted on 09/09/2023 3:01:57 PM PDT by ealgeone
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We have become another Sodom and Gomorrah. I am waiting for God to say enough is enough and just pulls the plug on this totally failed social experiment we call earth. I am ready.

It seems the Methodist Church is going woke and when they lose congregation after congregation they too will go broke. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


9 posted on 09/09/2023 3:02:00 PM PDT by SCConservative58
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Bishop Karen

Now that there is your problem…

10 posted on 09/09/2023 3:02:27 PM PDT by rhinohunter (“Being woke means you’re a loser” — Donald J. Trump)
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I went to private universities, a few years at a Jesuit run university and graduated from a Free Methodist sponsored university.
One rule both observed was NO POLITICS!
We had class prayer, mandatory chapel, et al, but politics was forbidden.
We were there to get an education not an indoctrination in secular world “Moral” values,
that has no place in a Religious school or church.


11 posted on 09/09/2023 3:11:42 PM PDT by rellic
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Old joke of Catholic priests confronted by Protestant ministers at a conference. Ministers hold out their hands to shake.
“We wanted to thank you again for the big increase in our congregations of all the former Catholics who left because of your marriage and divorce rules.”

But a serious note is I have thought for a long time now the handling of disappointment by Jews and Christians about God is leading to large withdrawals from all faiths.

All the 1950s majorities of observance by Americans have died out and many churches and synagogues have been closed.
Gallup website:
U.S. church membership was 73% when Gallup first measured it in 1937 and remained near 70% for the next six decades, before beginning a steady decline around the turn of the 21st century.Americans’ membership in houses of worship continued to decline last year, dropping below 50% for the first time in Gallup’s eight-decade trend. In 2020, 47% of Americans said they belonged to a church, synagogue or mosque, down from 50% in 2018 and 70% in 1999.

The ancient question about theodicy centers on the answers to prayers about good and evil. Billy Graham in 1968 book: “God hears all our prayers and answers all of them. But sometimes his answer is “no.””

So people desperately, sincerely pray for God’s help. Two parents pray that their tiny infant in agonizing pain will be cured. He or she dies. A person prays for their loved one in surgery. The person gets worse and dies. A woman prays to have a child she can love. She had an operation that means she can never have a baby. Passengers on an airplane pray that the Muslim terrorists holding them hostage will let the plane land safely. One by one most of the hostages are killed and the plane crashes and all the rest die.

We all know, in honesty, of things we prayed for that were good and decent things for which to pray and God answered “no.”

This makes the limited mind capacity of humans look for meaning and some way to accept ‘it will be to bring forth greater good later’ as one answer. Or as Robert Ringer wrote
“If a flea is on a dog and the dog is walking up a hill, the flea cannot understand why. We are like the flea.”


13 posted on 09/09/2023 3:12:47 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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From what I’ve heard, the United Methodists have become more liberal on homosexuality and all the LGBT things , while those leaving the United methodists are forming a new Methodist organization. This new organization is adhering to the traditional theology on homosexuality.

I never thought I would see schisms in religious Faith over the issue of homosexuality and gender identities, but that appears to be what is happening.


14 posted on 09/09/2023 3:15:19 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Christians leaving an un-Christian church? Who’d a thunk it? /s


15 posted on 09/09/2023 3:18:04 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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Anything goes in my Mom’s Methodist church. I’ll never understand it. I cannot STAND going to her church, and I rarely do. Her ‘Pastor’ is a gay female.

Next time I attend her church will most likely be her funeral, and that’s really sad. :(


18 posted on 09/09/2023 3:25:56 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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"Oliveto is the church's first openly gay bishop"

Sodom & Gomorrah were gay..... how did that work out???

22 posted on 09/09/2023 3:41:28 PM PDT by high info voter (Delivery )
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They’re Wesleyans?


26 posted on 09/09/2023 3:48:38 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

One near me flies the fag flag, another is a little more subtle. But they’re not in the same league as the Church of Christ which flies the flag and has all but painted the church in rainbow colors. Most especially on their electronic sign board, begging queers to show up.


29 posted on 09/09/2023 3:50:51 PM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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But 80% are staying.


30 posted on 09/09/2023 3:57:39 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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I have hung in there up until now, hoping for a miracle. But if the UMC General Conference next Spring officially goes gay, then I am gone.<p.


33 posted on 09/09/2023 4:15:42 PM PDT by Lysandru
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Churches live on one thing....money.
Take your money elsewhere and they will quickly die.
A building is not a Church. A Church is a group of like minded individuals.


37 posted on 09/09/2023 4:27:57 PM PDT by Zathras
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I was raised in that evil church by my hippy parents. I believe our “minister” was the first to perform a gay wedding in the UM church. Many moons ago.


38 posted on 09/09/2023 4:31:20 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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