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US likely to send long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for the first time: Officials
ABCNews.com ^ | September 8, 2023 | Matt Seyler

Posted on 09/09/2023 5:16:02 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

The Biden administration is likely to send Ukraine long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, to help in its fight to repel the Russian invasion of its territory, according to U.S. officials.

"They are coming," said one official who had access to security assistance plans. The official noted that, as always, such plans are subject to change until officially announced.

A second official said the missiles are "on the table" and likely to be included in an upcoming security assistance package, adding that a final decision has not been made. It could be months before Ukraine receives the missiles, according to the official.

With a range of up to 190 miles, depending on the version, deploying ATACMS could allow Ukraine to reach targets nearly four times further away than with the currently-provided rockets for its U.S.-made High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems and M270 multiple-launch rocket systems.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; United Kingdom; War
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Biden is desperate to start WWIII so he can declare martial law and stop the exposures of his crimes.


21 posted on 09/09/2023 5:55:45 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Timber Rattler

The toys just keep getting bigger all the time. And with the Ukraine and all their little countryside villages these are being dispersed to, whose going to be responsible for their use and protection? The Ukrainian government hasn’t indicated a responsibility for anything but running a receiving department.

wy69


22 posted on 09/09/2023 5:57:04 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: P.O.E.
Whatever happened to the classic lib complaint about spending money on military instead of the poor?

GOOD QUESTION!

23 posted on 09/09/2023 5:58:18 AM PDT by null and void (I always love a good argument, even when you’re wrong };^P>)
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To: fruser1
The shortest driving Kiev to Moscow is 532 miles (includes toll).

Ukraine is not allowed to attack russian cities with western weapons-Himars, Storm Shadow, etc.

US says Ukraine will not use US-supplied rocket systems to hit Russian territory-June 2022

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/01/us-says-ukraine-will-not-use-us-supplied-rocket-systems-to-hit-russian-territory

24 posted on 09/09/2023 6:00:24 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Timber Rattler

NO! Biden, et al are nuts.
At some point,closer now, Putin is going to retaliate on the suppiers . And we are the primary suppliers.


25 posted on 09/09/2023 6:00:50 AM PDT by Vinnie ( L g Brandon)
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To: Sacajaweau

Biden keeps escalating things until ...


26 posted on 09/09/2023 6:04:10 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: whitney69
whose going to be responsible for their use and protection

ATACMS are fired from the same vehicle Ukraine uses to fire HIMARS.


27 posted on 09/09/2023 6:05:47 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Timber Rattler

“Better late than never!”

So, the Biden administration squeezing out a nuclear holocaust is a good thing in your eyes?

Our missiles hitting the Russian homeland is an act of agression by the United States against Russia.

How can people be so incredibly stupid?


28 posted on 09/09/2023 6:07:08 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Timber Rattler

How does Biden have the authority to send our weapons to Ukraine? If I remember my history correctly President Roosevelt had to go to Congress to get the authority to send supplies to the England before we entered the war.

It is not just the cost of the weapons, it is the fact he is depleting our own supplies, supplies that may take years to replace.


29 posted on 09/09/2023 6:11:41 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Boy the trolls are really active, sure stirred up at Petersburg, or is it Belarus now


30 posted on 09/09/2023 6:12:05 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: P.O.E.

from 20 years ago on this site:

On a few website bulletin boards, I have used the term PEACE NAZI to describe the peace movement in general, and one person asked me for an explanation as to what the term means and why I say it. Here is my answer:

It is intentionally derogatory, and I use it because I believe it has to be said.

It has to do with the foundation of the PEACE movement in the US and abroad and their Communist foundation, and how the majority of the signs held and slogans chanted are not about peace or genuine concern for the people of two warring countries, it is about the anti-American attitudes and the violence-inducing signs and slogans calling for violence against American Troops and President Bush.

Carrying signs calling on troops to kill their officers, to bomb Texas, for Bush to choke on a pretzel and die, for troops to shoot their officers, signs that call for communist revolution, starting fights with people who disagree with you while carrying a peace sign, trying to steal my money in Boston while carrying a peace sign and then telling me because you were shamed into giving back the money that means you are ok after all...

Things like that.

I will NOT stop using it. It is intended to make the peace protester think.

After all the horrors we found in Iraq, you should all be thankful we went in and invaded to remove that madman. Yet, the mantra has changed, it is now against occupation! Still, not one PEACE NAZI has apologized and admitted we were right. All they do is complain that a people that were under slavery for 30 years have gone looting, and who do they blame? Why the US!! We did nothing to stop it! Maybe because we stayed out of the crowd because the PEACE NAZIS would have complained we didn�t let them vent their anger??

(As a side note, people who are now called PEACE NAZIS didn�t call on the LAPD or Federal Troops to stop the LA riots after the Rodney King riots, did they? They told us all to step back and let them vent their anger, yet all of a sudden, we are supposed to go in and use force to stop rioters in Iraq?)

And to top it off, we are flushing out the terrorists in places like Fallujah, the places where the Murderous Mullahs all take refuge, and the PEACE NAZIS have not ONCE held a rally to decry the beheadings of Americans or Iraqi CARE workers! Not one PEACE NAZI rally held to call for justice for the Killers of Daniel Pearl or any foreigner killed in Iraq!

We never intended to occupy a country like SYRIA has the last 20 years, and where are the PEACE NAZIS and their signs calling on SYRIA to leave Lebanon? They are non existent. The Syrians killed tens of thousands, chasing little children into bedrooms and shooting them point blank.

Did you know there was a Christian Community in Beirut before 1985? Now, they are almost either all killed or fled from the Syrian backed Junta, and not a peep from the PEACE NAZIS, only against American forces sent to Beirut to keep peace. Why aren�t the PEACE NAZIS arguing for the return of the Christian Community back to Beirut where they lived for 2 Millennium?

Where were the PEACE NAZIS when Israel was blockaded in 1967? Where were the PEACE NAZIS when Israel was attacked on her Holy Day of Yom Kippur in 1973? Where were the PEACE NAZIS when the PLO was shelling Katyusha rockets into Israel in 1982? Oh, Yeah, I remember, they were telling Israel to stop defending themselves!

In fact, there is not a single country that we ever went to war with that we stayed as the government power for more than 10 years! We always returned it to the people.

And that brings up another point: PEACE NAZIS are NOT against war, they are against wars that the US is engaged in to overthrow pro-Communist or PRO-radical Islamic regimes or PRO-Maoist/PRO-Stalinist regimes.

My point here, is simple: These COMMIES are not for peace. If they were, they would have been screaming about Clinton killing innocents to keep his sexual scandals off the tv;

they would have been screaming for the Palestinian Liberation Organization to stop killing Jews;

they would have been screaming for Hamas and Islamic Jihad to stop killing Jews;

they would have been screaming for the Hutus and Tutsis to make peace;

they would have been screaming for that madman Saddam to stop killing Kurds or Iranians;

they would have been screaming for the Turks to stop killing Kurds or Greeks;

they would have been screaming for the Chinese to stop killing Vietnamese in 1982;

they would have been screaming for the Angolan Army to stop killing with the help of the Cuban Army in the 1980’s;

they would have been screaming for the Muslims to stop killing Christians in Indonesia, Malaysia, and China and North Korea;

They would have been screaming for the Sudanese to stop the torture and slave trade which continues today in Darfur;

They would have been screaming when the Syrians invaded Lebanon in 1985 and have continued an occupation of Lebanon since the 1980’s;

They would have been screaming when Pol Pot started a genocide in 1975;

They would be screaming now about Mugabe killing all the white farmers in Africa in Zimbabwe;

They would have been screaming at the murders caused by the African National Congress and their necklacing of prisoners and at Winnie Mandela who was convicted of murder, yet the communists are silent;

They would have been screaming about Tiananmen Square, but they are silent;

They would have been screaming about the repression in Cuba and why so many people have chosen to flee in rickety little boats, but instead they lionize that dictator, Castro;

They would have been screaming about the invasion of South Vietnam in 1975 where the north started a genocide campaign in direct violation of the Paris Peace Accords of 1973 and caused over 2 million Vietnamese to flee in little boats that got picked up by ships like the one I was on in 1981;

They would be screaming at the Palestinians for their suicide bombings that intentionally target innocent school age children;

They would be screaming at the Palestinians for their suicide bombings that intentionally target innocent people on buses, or pizza parlors, or weddings, or wheel-chair bound invalids on cruise ships, or Olympic hotels;

Except, the only time they scream is when the US is at war against a tyrant who is support by Russia or France.

In much of the world, the antics and policies of these PEACE NAZIS would result in jail � or worse. Cuba, China and many socialist countries routinely eliminate protests � and protesters � against the government and its leaders. It seems ironic that the ultimate goal of these protesters is to transform America into the kind of government that tolerates no dissent.

And since NAZI is one of the most vile insults you can give someone in our last two generations, I call them PEACE NAZIS, for they are not for peace, they are for war, they are for the overthrow of my country and into communism and anarchy, and they are a violent bunch who base their foundation on lies and the telling of lies and the repeating of lies.


31 posted on 09/09/2023 6:13:40 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Sacajaweau

Joe is going to get us all killed


32 posted on 09/09/2023 6:15:04 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: tlozo

Yeah. Sure thing


33 posted on 09/09/2023 6:17:10 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: odawg
Our missiles hitting the Russian homeland

Ukraine is not allowed to attack russian cities with western weapons-Himars, Storm Shadow, etc.

US says Ukraine will not use US-supplied rocket systems to hit Russian territory-June 2022

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/01/us-says-ukraine-will-not-use-us-supplied-rocket-systems-to-hit-russian-territory

34 posted on 09/09/2023 6:18:58 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Timber Rattler

And this article:
Ukraine Unveils New Missile Fueled By Burning U.S. Dollars

KYIV — In a major breakthrough in the ongoing war with Russia, Ukraine has developed a new weapon powered by one of its most abundant renewable resources — American dollars.

The Kunis II Rocket (named in honor of the famous Ukrainian actress who starred with Danny Masterson on “That 70’s Show”) burns piles of U.S. currency to propel it toward its target. Green energy advocates are especially pleased with the new missile since the fuel it burns is literally green.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, with two y’s, commented on the weapon saying, “Thanks to this powerful new tool we are sure to defeat Putin this year, or next year, or the year after that, or something.” A top Ukrainian scientist explained how the system operates, saying, “Not to get too technical, but the money is crammed up the rocket’s money hole and ignited with a cigarette. It can then travel up to 40 kilometers per billion dollars.” Since no American is sure what a “kilometer” is, the Senate voted to keep sending Ukraine as much money as they need, forever.

Despite the consistent U.S. support, Ukraine has still not received enough money to propel the missile into Russian territory, so have thus far been using it to strategically blow up their own roads, bridges, and pipelines.

https://babylonbee.com/news/adam-yensers-article


35 posted on 09/09/2023 6:20:41 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: P.O.E.

Whatever happened to the classic lib complaint “no war”? Only Trump is calling for and end.


36 posted on 09/09/2023 6:21:45 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: MarMema

Thought that was HIMARS…no, wait….Bradleys and Leopard tanks…no, wait….Storm Shadows….no wait…cluster bombs….no wait…depleted uranium will REALLY do the job


37 posted on 09/09/2023 6:21:55 AM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: VTenigma

When they say “No War”, they mean they think we should be fighting for the other side.


38 posted on 09/09/2023 6:22:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: unread

I really hope DC and all those stinking DC lawyers go first..

When I was working in SF and had to deal with the rabble in DC each day that was my mantra every day.


39 posted on 09/09/2023 6:26:33 AM PDT by Mouton (US Home to one party rule)
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To: Jonty30

I’ve discounted the possibility of Putin using nukes as that opens up Pandora’s box....but as we continue to up-arm Ukraine I’m beginning to see it as a possibility.


40 posted on 09/09/2023 6:34:04 AM PDT by ealgeone
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