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‘They would not listen to us’: Inside Arizona’s troubled $53bn chip plant
The Guardian ^ | 28 Aug, 2023 | Michael Sainato

Posted on 08/28/2023 6:20:16 PM PDT by anthropocene_x

The Phoenix TSMC plant – the centerpiece of Biden’s $52.7bn US hi-tech manufacturing agenda – is struggling to get online. TSMC has pushed back plans to start manufacturing to 2025, blaming a lack of skilled labor. It is trying to fast-track visas for 500 Taiwanese workers.

Construction of the plant has been hampered by accidents and misunderstandings. A former supervisor at the site blamed delays on disorganization from management and a lack of knowledge by bosses from Taiwan on adhering to safety codes and regulations in the US.

When they started working at the site, all workers went through a safety training program, but out in the field, they never saw the people who ran that program or safety protocols enforced.

“I’ve never been on a job site like this. A job site this big with this many people, you have to be super safe, everything kind of has to slow down because you’re always in somebody’s way, so you have to have a perfect plan if you want to pull this off,” they concluded. “I think they need to get those Taiwan contractors out of there because they are not used to building in America at all. They’re hiring us as professionals to give them a quality installation and advice and direction on how to install things, but they would not listen to us at all.”

Aaron Butler, president of the Arizona Building and Construction Trades Council, disputed claims from TSMC that the US workforce lacks the experience and skills required to complete construction.

“Blaming American workers for problems with this project is as offensive to American workers as it is inaccurate,” Butler wrote. “TSMC is blaming its construction delays on American workers and using that as an excuse to bring in foreign workers who they can pay less.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; biden; china; chips; globalization; h1b; phoenix; taiwan; tsmc
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1 posted on 08/28/2023 6:20:16 PM PDT by anthropocene_x
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To: anthropocene_x
“I’ve never been on a job site like this. A job site this big with this many people, you have to be super safe, everything kind of has to slow down because you’re always in somebody’s way"

Sound like bull s**t.

2 posted on 08/28/2023 6:24:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: anthropocene_x

(blaming a lack of skilled labor)

Just as long as we don’t use Americans.

That would make John McCain happy (posthumously).


3 posted on 08/28/2023 6:24:14 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: anthropocene_x

Just look at the American auto industry.


4 posted on 08/28/2023 6:24:23 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: anthropocene_x

This policy is one thing the dems got right. We need to make more of these chips on US soil. Taiwanese safety cannot be guaranteed and losing these chips would cripple our economy. We need to make them here.


5 posted on 08/28/2023 6:27:31 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: anthropocene_x
a lack of knowledge by bosses from Taiwan on adhering to safety codes and regulations in the US.

Right - so the Taiwanese, who lead the world in chip manufacture, don't know how to get through the endless, useless maze of US bureaucracy and regulation, and this guy is claiming it's a "them" problem. Lame.
6 posted on 08/28/2023 6:30:35 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: anthropocene_x

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7 posted on 08/28/2023 6:30:45 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: sauropod

Steve Jobs: “Those jobs aren’t coming back”. He was on to something.


8 posted on 08/28/2023 6:32:55 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: anthropocene_x

“We would not listen to them.”


9 posted on 08/28/2023 6:34:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: thefactor
We need to make more of these chips on US soil. Taiwanese safety cannot be guaranteed and losing these chips would cripple our economy. We need to make them here.

The main chip that Taiwan is holding that's keeping Communist China from invading is that the United States (and other countries) need Taiwanese computer chips.

China wasn't paying Jao Bai-din and his crackhead son Hunter for nothing.

10 posted on 08/28/2023 6:38:23 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

So you prefer war with China rather than making the chips here?


11 posted on 08/28/2023 6:40:26 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor

Depends on the meaning of ‘we’. Who are ‘we’?

Illegals, foreign invaders? How about citizens that
have proven love for America? Are there any left?


12 posted on 08/28/2023 6:43:08 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (MURDER IS MYRDER)
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To: thefactor

This was announced in 2020, when Trump was president. In April, I think.


13 posted on 08/28/2023 6:45:23 PM PDT by garandgal
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I’m not sure what policy you’re referring to. I’m referring to the Chips and Science Act which was introduced in July 2021 and signed by Biden. I’m sure there have been several pushes to get the chips made here, but this act is the one I’m talking about.


14 posted on 08/28/2023 6:50:39 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor

You folks think we could make them and make them better? There’s a reason why we aren’t making them like we should. It’s more than the cost of labor.


15 posted on 08/28/2023 7:00:46 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: thefactor
So you prefer war with China rather than making the chips here?

China can't afford a war with their biggest customer. They also can't afford a war with a country they bought so much debt from.

Without computer chips in play, the United States could look the other way if China invaded Taiwan. It wouldn't be the first time the United States allowed smaller countries to be occupied as part of a larger deal.

16 posted on 08/28/2023 7:06:26 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: anthropocene_x

Option 1: Do it the way that the most successful chip producers on earth do it.
Option2: Do it the way that loser government bureaucrats (who would NEVER be hired by any tech company) want us to do it.
What a dilemma. What’s a clueless lib arts major leftist DemocRAT to do?


17 posted on 08/28/2023 7:07:39 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Just look at the American auto industry.

Yeah ... take a look at the AMERICAN MADE Toyotas and Hondas. Reliable, durable, and well made.

What?

That's not consistent with the "hate America" narrative?

Too bad.

Truth is truth.

18 posted on 08/28/2023 7:11:38 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: garandgal
This was announced in 2020, when Trump was president.

That's the way I remember it. Same as the Intel fab in Columbus OH.

19 posted on 08/28/2023 7:13:12 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

American management is the problem.

When Toyota took over management of the Fremont plant from GM, productivity and production and quality jumped dramatically. (same labor force, but without retarded US auto executives and engineers).

I think it is the same in every industry. The only industries the US still makes big money is tech, where they don’t actually have to manufacturing anything themselves, because they don’t know how.


20 posted on 08/28/2023 7:37:45 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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