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To: Responsibility2nd

My arguments against the unjust death penalty are found here (under “Jim W N”).

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4176924/posts


20 posted on 08/28/2023 3:30:47 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

And those arguments are wrong.

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25 posted on 08/28/2023 3:31:58 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Jim W N

“Unjust” death penalty?

Stating that obviously means there are “just” death penalties.

The death penalty has always been of God who has always prescribed death to evil wrongdoers.

Who are you or I to argue with God?


31 posted on 08/28/2023 3:36:06 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Jim W N

What’s an “unjust death penalty”? All death penalties, or those subjected to it who are innocent?


35 posted on 08/28/2023 3:38:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Jim W N

Ok got it, you are liberal on capital punishment.


37 posted on 08/28/2023 3:40:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Jim W N

My arguments against the unjust death penalty are found here (under “Jim W N”).
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Don’t believe I know anyone who is not against an unjust death penalty!


91 posted on 08/28/2023 5:19:25 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: Jim W N; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; Karliner; RoosterRedux; skr; Big Red Badger; ...
My arguments against the unjust death penalty are found here (under “Jim W N”).

The death penalty is unjust double jeopardy, Jesus already having died for all of the egregious crimes and unconscionable acts of all mankind (1 John 2:2) and is useful only to assuage the bloodthirstiness of the angry mob..

Bad theology:Jesus Christ did not only die for "all of the egregious crimes and unconscionable acts of all mankind" but for all sins, and thus by your double jeopardy logic, no one can be punished for any sins, including rejecting the Lord Jesus. And whose atonement is only efficacious for those who receive him, like as the prepared feast did not benefit the invited persons unless they responded positively to the invite! (Luke 14:15-24)

And thus those who die in their sins will face eternal punishment, as will the devil. (Mt. 25:31-46; Rv. 20:10-15))

And thus your position is also contrary to Scripture which affirms the just use of the sword of men by the government. (Rm. 13:1-7)

What is wrong is that in Biblical justice (in which there are many capital offenses) not only are 2 or 3 eye-witnesses (a principle) required for conviction but those whose false testimony caused one to suffer are to receive the punishment that there false testimony resulted in. (Deuteronomy 19:15-21)

Moreover, public stoning was the normative Biblical form of capital punishment, versus antiseptic executions by the state, and communal stoning corresponds to crime also being against the community in general, and serves as a deterring reminder to all of the consequences of sins (and of false testimony), as well as providing a better sense of justice.

113 posted on 08/28/2023 7:30:48 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: Jim W N

The death penalty for murder is never unjust.

God established it before the Law was given, in Genesis 9:6.

Are you really accusing God of being unjust by establishing the death penalty for murder and other crimes??


119 posted on 08/28/2023 7:46:34 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Jim W N

Not double jeopardy. That’s nonsense. Yes, Jesus died for all, but all are not saved, because all do not accept him. And even if a convict accept the Lord, they still must pay for their crimes on this earth; they’ll get their reward in Heaven.


121 posted on 08/28/2023 7:50:03 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)
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