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PJM, MISO, others warn of ‘significant power shortages’ from EPA’s power plant carbon rule
Utility Dive ^ | August 10, 2023 | Ethan Howland

Posted on 08/20/2023 5:38:18 AM PDT by karpov

The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposed greenhouse gas emissions standards for power plants could hurt grid reliability, with the potential for “significant power shortages,” according to major U.S. grid operators.

“The joint [independent system operators/regional transmission organizations] are concerned that the proposed rule could result in material, adverse impacts to the reliability of the power grid,” four of the largest U.S. grid operators said in joint comments to the agency Tuesday.

Their reliability concerns mainly stem from the chance that the EPA is overestimating how quickly technological advances may occur in “green” hydrogen production, transport and generation, as well as in carbon capture and storage, or CCS — the key compliance pathways for meeting the proposed rule, according to the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, the Midcontinent Independent System Operator, the PJM Interconnection and the Southwest Power Pool, organizations that operate the grid in 30 states and the District of Columbia, serving about 154 million people.

“If the technology and associated infrastructure fail to timely materialize, then the future supply of compliant generation — given forced retirements of non-compliant generation — would be far below what is needed to serve power demand, increasing the likelihood of significant power shortages,” the grid operators said.

Also, the proposed rule could speed the retirement of fossil-fueled power plants before they can be replaced with new generation that can supply needed reliability services, the grid operators said.

In a near-term threat to grid reliability, power plant owners may decide to retire their units or skimp on maintenance because of the financial risks related to the proposed rule and other power sector-related EPA regulations, the grid operators said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: bidencriminalregime; electricity; epa; globalwarminghoax; miso; pjm

1 posted on 08/20/2023 5:38:18 AM PDT by karpov
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To: karpov

You will own nothing and have no power and you will like it.


2 posted on 08/20/2023 5:41:47 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: HighSierra5

I agree...They want to own ALL the utilities...and install smart meters which will give them total control...when the government declares an emergency....which will last....forever...


3 posted on 08/20/2023 5:44:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: karpov

This is part of the plan. The Green Agenda is being exposed a program for engineered scarcity


4 posted on 08/20/2023 5:50:00 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: HighSierra5

You have succinctly stated the process being presently imposed on China by Chairman Xi. All that was prosperous and free is being degraded to some common denominator. There will be China Socialist equality where all live just above poverty

There will be no private or stock companies. There will be no entrepreneurial street vendors. There will be no private economy.

Xi is replacing the Maoist collective agricultural model with a CCPist collective industrial model.

It is not a theoretical event. Xi and the CCP are in fact forcing the transition right now. The China most think they know simply isn’t


5 posted on 08/20/2023 5:52:10 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: karpov

Freedom must be controlled, so say our elites


6 posted on 08/20/2023 5:52:37 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: karpov
--- "...the EPA is overestimating how quickly technological advances may occur in “green” hydrogen production, transport and generation, as well as in carbon capture and storage, or CCS...."

There is no such thing as "green" hydrogen, since it is 1) energy intensive and so returns less energy than it takes to produce, and 2) currently 95% of the production is done through burning hydrocarbons.

There is not such thing as a real "carbon capture" that could deal with CO2 which is not a true pollutant, anyway. Carbon capture requires massive subsidies which are passed through government but funded by "tax and fee" capture of users' and producers' current energy supplies. And greater debt for all.

Ideology is becoming the enemy of the citizen, while the ally of the ideologues in government.

7 posted on 08/20/2023 5:53:55 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: karpov

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8 posted on 08/20/2023 6:11:15 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: HighSierra5

Surprised they didn’t do this a month ago. At this point I suspect the Texas outage a few winters ago was deliberate.


9 posted on 08/20/2023 6:12:54 AM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: karpov

Nuclear energy was introduced to the world in a violent fashion. The A-bombs dropped on Japan to end WWII were the most violent and destructive event known to humankind at the time. The USA developed that destructive force.

Following WWII the USA put the fission of the atom into peaceful uses by developing nuclear reactors that produced clean energy. Then Three Mile Island happened. This event spelled the end of nuclear power generation in the USA. It should not have. Three Mile Island was a bad accident but all the safety systems designed into the plant operated and no life was lost and the environment was not damaged.

As a result though all nuclear plants currently under construction and all those on the drawing boards were ordered by the Atomic Energy Commission to be modified with layers of unnecessary redundant safety systems that increased the cost of the plants to the extent that they were no longer viable.

The people responsible for these decisions were wrong then, and that same thinking today is wrong about CO2 being a detriment to our environment. It isn’t about electric power, it is about political power and control of the masses.


10 posted on 08/20/2023 6:14:34 AM PDT by Saltmeat (69)
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To: no-to-illegals

That is what Marx said. Not a quote, but it was something like:
Freedom is so precious that it must be rationed…


11 posted on 08/20/2023 6:21:01 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: telescope115

I neither know marx’s quote and my full agreement of your observation. leftists are marxists ……


12 posted on 08/20/2023 6:31:35 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: karpov

In the “dead of winter” when the wind chills are double digit negative, that will be the opportune time to have the grid collapse. You see, “they” want us dead.


13 posted on 08/20/2023 6:48:06 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: Saltmeat

“Three Mile Island was a bad accident but all the safety systems designed into the plant operated and no life was lost and the environment was not damaged.”

Look at all the EVs which have exploded/ caught fire, homes burned and people injured or killed from those lithium-ion nutbag “vehicles”. Much worse than TMI.


14 posted on 08/20/2023 7:18:52 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: karpov

The EPA rules are excellent - they will ensure a Trump victory come November of next year when people that use lots of electricity find out what their electricity bills would be.


15 posted on 08/20/2023 7:36:06 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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To: Carriage Hill

https://www.tesla-fire.com/


16 posted on 08/20/2023 7:38:43 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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To: Brian Griffin

Many thanks!


17 posted on 08/20/2023 10:07:49 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Brian Griffin

I live in the SW desert, west of Phoenix. My July electric bill was just shy of 300 bucks. All the fees, taxes, and adders drove it to about 600 bucks. And you cannot easily determine where they originate, federal, state, or utility.


18 posted on 08/20/2023 12:47:38 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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