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Two Princeton, MIT Scientists Say EPA Climate Regulations Based on a ‘Hoax’
.theepochtimes.com/ ^ | 8/12/2023 | Kevin Stocklin

Posted on 08/13/2023 4:30:54 PM PDT by bitt

Physicist, meteorologist testify that the climate agenda is ‘disastrous’ for America

Two prominent climate scientists have taken on the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) new rules to cut CO2 emissions in electricity generation, arguing in testimony that the regulations “will be disastrous for the country, for no scientifically justifiable reason.”

Citing extensive data to support their case, William Happer, professor emeritus in physics at Princeton University, and Richard Lindzen, professor emeritus of atmospheric science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), argued that the claims used by the EPA to justify the new regulations are not based on scientific facts but rather political opinions and speculative models that have consistently proven to be wrong.

“The unscientific method of analysis, relying on consensus, peer review, government opinion, models that do not work, cherry-picking data and omitting voluminous contradictory data, is commonly employed in these studies and by the EPA in the Proposed Rule,” Mr. Happer and Mr. Lindzen stated. “None of the studies provides scientific knowledge, and thus none provides any scientific support for the Proposed Rule.”

“All of the models that predict catastrophic global warming fail the key test of the scientific method: they grossly overpredict the warming versus actual data,” they stated. “The scientific method proves there is no risk that fossil fuels and carbon dioxide will cause catastrophic warming and extreme weather.”

Climate models like the ones that the EPA is using have been consistently wrong for decades in predicting actual outcomes, Mr. Happer told The Epoch Times. He presented the table below to the EPA to illustrate his point.

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“That was already an embarrassment in the ‘90s, when I was director of energy research in the U.S. Department of Energy,” he said. “I was funding a lot of this work, and I knew very well then that the models were overpredicting the warming by a huge amount.”

He and his colleague argued that the EPA has grossly overstated the harm from CO2 emissions while ignoring the benefits of CO2 to life on Earth.

Many who have fought against EPA climate regulations have done so by arguing what is called the “major questions doctrine,” that the EPA does not have the authority to invent regulations that have such an enormous impact on Americans without clear direction from Congress. Mr. Happer and Mr. Lindzen, however, have taken a different tack, arguing that the EPA regulations fail the “State Farm” test because they are “arbitrary and capricious.”

“Time and again, courts have applied ‘State Farm’s’ principles to invalidate agency rules where the agency failed to consider an important aspect of the problem, or cherry-picked data to support a pre-ordained conclusion,” they stated. The case they referred to is the 2003 case of State Farm v. Campell (pdf), in which the Supreme Court argued that “a State can have no legitimate interest in deliberately making the law so arbitrary that citizens will be unable to avoid punishment based solely upon bias or whim.”

According to Mr. Happer and Mr. Lindzen’s testimony, “600 million years of CO2 and temperature data contradict the theory that high levels of CO2 will cause catastrophic global warming.”

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KEYWORDS: agw; c02; carbonpropaganda; climatechange; climatehoax; electricity; energy; fakescience; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hh2; hoax; regulations; scam; scientists; tyranny
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1 posted on 08/13/2023 4:30:54 PM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 08/13/2023 4:31:11 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=40%>)
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To: bitt

Bookmark


3 posted on 08/13/2023 4:37:40 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: bitt

In the next SCOTUS case, these guys should file an amicus curiae and Alito should highlight their testimony against the EPA in his ruling.


4 posted on 08/13/2023 4:37:58 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: bitt

Happer(age 84) and Lindzen(83) are a scientific A-team. I hope by some miracle their views prevail.


5 posted on 08/13/2023 4:38:29 PM PDT by devere
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To: devere

Lotta big brains at MIT. I believe um


6 posted on 08/13/2023 4:42:35 PM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: bitt
Never forget that the whole "CO2 global warming" meme is a false crisis, invented out of thin air by the neo-malthusian Club of Rome as a tool to force a drastic die-off of human populations by suppressing Western European culture and technology. This is only the beginning. Ultimately, YOU are the carbon they want to reduce.

Meanwhile, trust the climate oligarchs to find private profit in public policy.

See Dr. Tim Ball's book The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science.

7 posted on 08/13/2023 4:43:08 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: bitt

The consensus is weakening. Science.


8 posted on 08/13/2023 4:43:37 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: devere
Happer(age 84) and Lindzen(83) are a scientific A-team. I hope by some miracle their views prevail.

I hope so too, but I would strongly advise them, to stay away from Fort Marcy Park.

9 posted on 08/13/2023 4:49:57 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: bitt

Unfotunately Mr.Happler and Mr.Lindzen’s truth fails (and cannot) to address the totalitarian climate cult religion the WEF uses to perpetrate world government.


10 posted on 08/13/2023 4:50:18 PM PDT by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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This is the full text of Happer & Lindzen’s submission to the EPA https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Happer-Lindzen-EPA-Power-Plants-2023-07-19.pdf


11 posted on 08/13/2023 4:51:05 PM PDT by devere
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William Happer is a physicist, and Richard Lindzen is an atmospheric scientist.

Neither is a “climate scientist”. But “climate scientists” are fake!!

So believe the real scientists, not the bogus “climate scientists”, who work for the Dim tyrants!!!!


12 posted on 08/13/2023 4:51:57 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: devere
Lindzen is a brilliant scientist and writer. He sees right through all the climate/witch doctor hoaxes.

Also see Judith Curry

13 posted on 08/13/2023 4:59:38 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: bitt
Tonight, in reporting the Austin weather forecast for this week (every day in the 100s, which was the same as last week, and the week before that, and the week before that) the local ABC weatherman twice referred to the high temperatures as "human-induced climate change."

Well, at least he didn't say "white privilege-induced climate change."


14 posted on 08/13/2023 5:03:15 PM PDT by Carl Vehse (Move the Overton window to the right with defenestration.)
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To: bitt

I remember when this all started...Hillary said it was to get young people involved in politics....and voila...the Penguins did their thing...schools were passing out Green Shirts and children were loaded on wagons....and


15 posted on 08/13/2023 5:03:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
Never forget that the whole "CO2 global warming" meme is a false crisis, invented out of thin air by the neo-malthusian Club of Rome as a tool to force a drastic die-off of human populations by suppressing Western European culture and technology. This is only the beginning. Ultimately, YOU are the carbon they want to reduce.

Yes. Remember the push in the 1990s and early 2000s to switch to clean burning natural gas for buses and other vehicles? Because the main tailpipe emissions were CO2 and water.

16 posted on 08/13/2023 5:06:51 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Honorary Serb
"But “climate scientists” are fake!!"


17 posted on 08/13/2023 5:09:17 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
invented out of thin air by the neo-malthusian Club of Rome

Yep. Started in the 60's with THE ICE AGE IS COMING!!!!!

18 posted on 08/13/2023 5:10:45 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: bitt

If we’re gonna punish people for “misinformation”, better start with Algore. He made that stupid movie so he’d feel important after losing to W and it caused great harm.


19 posted on 08/13/2023 5:16:37 PM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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20 posted on 08/13/2023 5:16:40 PM PDT by tomkat (SOTU = FUBAR)
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