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US plans water heater standards, says will save consumers $11 billion yearly
MSN ^ | 7/21/2023

Posted on 07/22/2023 7:45:53 AM PDT by logi_cal869

The U.S. Department of Energy on Friday proposed energy efficiency standards on water heaters it said would save consumers $11.4 billion on energy and water bills annually.

The standards on residential water heater efficiency, which are required by Congress, have not been updated in 13 years. Water heating is responsible for roughly 13% of both annual residential energy use and consumer utility costs, the DOE said.

The proposal would require the most common-sized electric water heaters to achieve efficiency gains with heat pump technology and gas-fired water heaters to achieve efficiency gains through condensing technology.

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KEYWORDS: biggovernment; heaters; regulations; waterheaters
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To: logi_cal869

Stop the madness. Government central planning gone viral.


121 posted on 07/22/2023 11:44:56 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: logi_cal869

Some of them, you can hold the lever down until the water stops flowing out and make the miser flush more normal.

The worst part of the miser flush toilets? They require more often cleaning the sides of the bowl. If you don’t clean them often the odor is noticeable.

We all don’t live in a city, if you are on a well and septic tank the cost of the water is ZERO.

But those who “regulate” cannot stand for us to have things that actually work.

The Fed Regulators in general are total FUBO.


122 posted on 07/22/2023 11:45:05 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Ann Archy

CONTROLLING US IS ALL THEY CARE ABOUT!

That’s true.


123 posted on 07/22/2023 11:45:53 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: logi_cal869

The climate change junkies will do for us what the Soviets did for their people.


124 posted on 07/22/2023 11:46:49 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Agreed. That’s why I rebuilt my now 20-year-old dryer rather than get a match for my front load washer (which also recently got rebuilt because it has warm water wash).

IMHO it’s the heating elements. Not only do they heat poorly, but they also don’t last, either.


125 posted on 07/22/2023 11:47:30 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: null and void

Well it is true.

Smile.

If it works, don’t fix it.


126 posted on 07/22/2023 11:48:20 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil
If it works, don’t fix it.

If it works, outlaw it.

127 posted on 07/22/2023 12:03:04 PM PDT by null and void (Intelligence has limits, while gullibility doesn't. ~ SunkenCiv)
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To: null and void

NO, that is the Bureaucarp Fix.


128 posted on 07/22/2023 12:07:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: ridesthemiles; logi_cal869
NOW they WANT gas fired water heaters—NOT electric???

The BIDEN DOE???


129 posted on 07/22/2023 12:16:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: popdonnelly
CONTROLLING US IS ALL THEY CARE ABOUT!

Humiliating us too.

130 posted on 07/22/2023 12:19:15 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Texas Fossil

EXACTLY!


131 posted on 07/22/2023 12:37:32 PM PDT by null and void (Intelligence has limits, while gullibility doesn't. ~ SunkenCiv)
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To: Blennos
“Born in the capital of the Confederacy: Richmond, Virginia”

Maybe if you had been born in the first capital, you would be familiar with the word, “Dookie”.
Or maybe you are simply a Young Whippersnapper and the word “Dookie” died out before your time.

132 posted on 07/22/2023 1:07:23 PM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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To: Tupelo

In honor of the Olde South, I will now add “dookie” to my official off-color vocabulary list. Thank you for educating me.


133 posted on 07/22/2023 1:42:25 PM PDT by Blennos
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To: logi_cal869
A hot water heater for ever sidizen.
134 posted on 07/22/2023 1:50:08 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them. )
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To: Blennos; EEGator
Bushwacked


135 posted on 07/22/2023 3:52:29 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: BobL

I have an iHeat tankless heater. It will supply enough for a shower and sink simultaneously. There are different models.
220 volt line was already there as were in/out water lines....simple installation.
My first propane unit in another home had the electric bill go down $45 per month. Propane was refilled 35-40 gal every six months.
Propane units are even more efficient. Marey heaters out of Puerto Rico have been made for 60+ years now.

I saw no point in paying to keep 40 gallons hot all the time.
The only disadvantage of propane is the unit has to be vented to the outdoors.


136 posted on 07/22/2023 4:31:38 PM PDT by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afghanistan - here to stay...,)
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To: LFOD

“I saw no point in paying to keep 40 gallons hot all the time.”

I once measured the cost of a tank water heater that is only re-heating water (purposely did not use any hot water for a several days). It came out to being on for 12 minutes each day, in two 6 minute spurts. It was in an apartment, so the outside of it was room temperature, or really slightly below room temperature. So the daily cost, in those conditions, to keep the tank warm was around 15 cents, so under $5 a month. Still money, but it’s nice having hot water when the power goes out.


137 posted on 07/22/2023 4:39:44 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: logi_cal869

I’m convinced. Dookie is real.


138 posted on 07/22/2023 6:16:41 PM PDT by Blennos
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To: Blennos

I will concede that I confused dookie with Caddyshack’s ‘doodie’.


139 posted on 07/22/2023 6:28:11 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: LFOD

In a previous house (mobile home) it was straightforward to install a 220V tankless water heater as a replacement for a tank as well. And it worked great... 9 months of the year. Dec-Jan-Feb the heating delta was inadequate for a comfortable shower. Ended up installing a second tankless heater IN SERIES to get the water warmed up enough in winter.


140 posted on 07/22/2023 8:16:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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