Posted on 07/22/2023 7:45:53 AM PDT by logi_cal869
The U.S. Department of Energy on Friday proposed energy efficiency standards on water heaters it said would save consumers $11.4 billion on energy and water bills annually.
The standards on residential water heater efficiency, which are required by Congress, have not been updated in 13 years. Water heating is responsible for roughly 13% of both annual residential energy use and consumer utility costs, the DOE said.
The proposal would require the most common-sized electric water heaters to achieve efficiency gains with heat pump technology and gas-fired water heaters to achieve efficiency gains through condensing technology.
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Stop the madness. Government central planning gone viral.
Some of them, you can hold the lever down until the water stops flowing out and make the miser flush more normal.
The worst part of the miser flush toilets? They require more often cleaning the sides of the bowl. If you don’t clean them often the odor is noticeable.
We all don’t live in a city, if you are on a well and septic tank the cost of the water is ZERO.
But those who “regulate” cannot stand for us to have things that actually work.
The Fed Regulators in general are total FUBO.
CONTROLLING US IS ALL THEY CARE ABOUT!
That’s true.
The climate change junkies will do for us what the Soviets did for their people.
Agreed. That’s why I rebuilt my now 20-year-old dryer rather than get a match for my front load washer (which also recently got rebuilt because it has warm water wash).
IMHO it’s the heating elements. Not only do they heat poorly, but they also don’t last, either.
Well it is true.
Smile.
If it works, don’t fix it.
If it works, outlaw it.
NO, that is the Bureaucarp Fix.
The BIDEN DOE???
Humiliating us too.
EXACTLY!
Maybe if you had been born in the first capital, you would be familiar with the word, “Dookie”.
Or maybe you are simply a Young Whippersnapper and the word “Dookie” died out before your time.
In honor of the Olde South, I will now add “dookie” to my official off-color vocabulary list. Thank you for educating me.
I have an iHeat tankless heater. It will supply enough for a shower and sink simultaneously. There are different models.
220 volt line was already there as were in/out water lines....simple installation.
My first propane unit in another home had the electric bill go down $45 per month. Propane was refilled 35-40 gal every six months.
Propane units are even more efficient. Marey heaters out of Puerto Rico have been made for 60+ years now.
I saw no point in paying to keep 40 gallons hot all the time.
The only disadvantage of propane is the unit has to be vented to the outdoors.
“I saw no point in paying to keep 40 gallons hot all the time.”
I once measured the cost of a tank water heater that is only re-heating water (purposely did not use any hot water for a several days). It came out to being on for 12 minutes each day, in two 6 minute spurts. It was in an apartment, so the outside of it was room temperature, or really slightly below room temperature. So the daily cost, in those conditions, to keep the tank warm was around 15 cents, so under $5 a month. Still money, but it’s nice having hot water when the power goes out.
I’m convinced. Dookie is real.
I will concede that I confused dookie with Caddyshack’s ‘doodie’.
In a previous house (mobile home) it was straightforward to install a 220V tankless water heater as a replacement for a tank as well. And it worked great... 9 months of the year. Dec-Jan-Feb the heating delta was inadequate for a comfortable shower. Ended up installing a second tankless heater IN SERIES to get the water warmed up enough in winter.
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