Scott Walker urges Trump to attend GOP debate: ‘This guy dominates the stage’

The Hill ^ | 07/17/2023 | MIRANDA NAZZARO

[ChicagoConservative27]

Former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) says he thinks it would be a mistake for former President Trump not to attend the upcoming Republican presidential primary debates as the former president threatens to skip it.

“[The race] is certainly his to lose right now. He’s an unconventional candidate. When some people talked about him not going to the upcoming debate in August in Milwaukee — I think that would be a mistake,” Walker told CNN’s Dana Bash on “Inside Politics” on Monday.

[philman_36]

What is live streaming? (from above) Streaming is the method of data transmission used when someone watches video on the Internet. It is a way to deliver a video file a little bit at a time, often from a remote storage location. By transmitting a few seconds of the file at a time over the internet, client devices do not have to download the entire video before starting to play it.
Live streaming is when the streamed video is sent over the Internet in real time, without first being recorded and stored. Streaming isn't the same as live streaming.
But you knew that, you're in IT.

[philman_36]

No, that is not direct.

But you can't show me that in law, despite your flow of oral verbosity.

You can't even give a legal definition of firsthand because it doesn't exist in Black's, only first-hand...the British style.

[Dr. Sivana]

Show me that in Black's Law Dictionary.
I already did, in post 160:
Firsthand knowledge. Information or knowledge gleaned directly from the source; e.g. eyewitness to a homicide. ===================

[Dr. Sivana]

Probably causing a two second delay. Are you KIDDING ME?! Probably?

You don't KNOW? After all, you're in IT.

It depends on whether it hits a satellite or not, whether you are near the server or half-way around the world, etc. It is not instantaneous.

[Dr. Sivana]

There is no result for firsthand (use search) in Black's,

I typed it directly from my personal copy. Fifth Edition is newer than 2nd Edition, but not too new.

Surely you are old enough to accept things typed in from books. It isn't firsthand, but then neither is a link to a scan of a public domain version.

[Dr. Sivana]

Streaming isn't the same as live streaming.

That description is not 100% accurate. Livestreaming certainly involves caching. It may not be stored permanently on an SSD or hard drive, but it is stored in RAM. Certainly you have seen hiccups and such in "live" video. All the steps I described that happen between the act and you seeing it happen on live streams. Notice I did not use the words disk or SSD once.

But you might not have known that, as you are not in IT.

[philman_36]

It is not instantaneous.

Nothing, so far, is instantaneous.
Quantum Leaps, Long Assumed to Be Instantaneous, Take Time

[Dr. Sivana]

You can't even give a legal definition of firsthand because it doesn't exist in Black's, only first-hand...the British style.

You are using a very old public domain version. My print edition is from the 1980s. Both spellings are correct, because English is is quite flexible, some would say colourful, in that regard.

But since my retyping from a REAL Black's Law dictionary, rather than from an online version that may or may not be complete is not good enough for you, here is a photo of the book entry. Still not firsthand, but much better than your search engine.

[Dr. Sivana]

Nothing, so far, is instantaneous.

Well, I agree with you in a sense. God's actions (and possibly angels) are instantaneous in the strict sense.

I meant instantaneous as listed in definition 1 in the online Merriam-Webster's (not my preferred, but the first that came up). The key phrase is perceptible duration of time. Two seconds is perceptible. The speed of light from object to eye and from eye to brain, is not ordinarily perceptible.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/instantaneous
done, occurring, or acting without any perceptible duration of time

[philman_36]

I am merely stating the fact that the definition of firsthand means "direct" observation.
I typed it directly from my personal copy.

Blacks Law Dictionary Fifth Edition pg 572

Firsthand knowledge. Information or knowledge gleaned directly from its source; e.g. eyewitness to a homicide. Firsthand isn't there either, just firsthand knowledge.
And once again, from its source.

You say you typed it...directly from your copy?

[philman_36]

Did you not realize that the 5th Edition is online?

[philman_36]

Surely you are old enough to accept things typed in from books.

I sure am. You didn't do that.

[philman_36]

It doesn't say what you said it did. You butchered the whole thing
with your seat of the pants definition.
Firsthand isn't even in there!

You ad libbed and you're having to correct your mistake.

[philman_36]

Surely you are old enough to accept things typed in from books.

No you didn't, you showed me the definition of Firsthand knowledge, not firathand.

Show me FIRSTHAND, like you claimed is in there.

[philman_36]

I am merely stating the fact that the definition of firsthand means "direct" observation.

Even though firsthand, as a standalone word, isn't in the dictionary.

You play word games and they catch up with you.

[Dr. Sivana]

Ok, a little lesson in definitions. If a term is described, and the same word is used in both the term and the description, the remaining word is equivalent to the remaining part of the description.

Firsthand knowledge. Information or knowledge gleaned directly from its source; e.g. eyewitness to a homicide.

Once we see "knowledge" on both sides, we know that "firsthand" refers to the part after "gleaned directly from its source". That's how language works.

Incidentally, most entries in a law dictionary are multi-word terms and phrases. Even lawyers avail themselves of regular dictionaries for common words. A law dictionary would no more be obliged to have a separate entry for "firsthand" than it would to have a separate entry for "delicti" as opposed to the legal term "corpus delicti".

You say you typed it...directly from your copy?
Yes. I typed it directly from my copy, but my looking at the book counts as firsthand knowledge of the source. Everything else is indirect, including the uploaded photo.

[philman_36]

More evidence that LIVE video is used as evidence...

Can Cell Phone Video Be Used as Evidence in Court in Pennsylvania?

Video captured by traffic cameras will carry more legitimacy than a cell phone video captured by someone trying to win a legal proceeding. They'll even send you a picture of you driving...in real time.

[philman_36]

Ok, a little lesson in definitions.

I need no lessons from you.

You're defining "Firsthand knowledge" NOT "Firsthand".

YOU need a lesson on definitions.

[Dr. Sivana]

Did you not realize that the 5th Edition is online?

Well, you kept linking to the Second Edition, and I knew I had the Fifth Edition. I'm a little surprised there is a free version online after under 40 years. I'll stick with my print edition most of the time, though.

I sure am. You didn't do that.

Yes I did. Compare to the online version if you like.

It doesn't say what you said it did. You butchered the whole thing with your seat of the pants definition. Firsthand isn't even in there! You ad libbed and you're having to correct your mistake.

No. I listed the definitions that included firsthand, explained something that you should have known since you learned the transitive law in 5th grade math class (“If a is equal to b and b is equal to c, then a is equal to c.”).

No mistake. I spelled everything out. You were the one who decided to bring up legal definitions from law dictionaries. My original definitions from standard use dicctionaries stand, the legal definitions buttress it, and you attempt analogies, but cannot come up with a definition other than your own to make your case.

Surely you are old enough to accept things typed in from books. No you didn't, you showed me the definition of Firsthand knowledge, not firsthand.

You play word games and they catch up with you.

That's what people say when they don't have a proper rebuttal.

The dictionaries back me.
The legal dictionary backs me.
You back you. I cannot stop you from attempting to redefine words.

I have direct experience of living and working in Scott Walker's Wisconsin, and you do not.

[philman_36]

Do you think your two second lag argument is going to hold up in traffic court if you’re cited?