Scott Walker urges Trump to attend GOP debate: ‘This guy dominates the stage’

The Hill ^ | 07/17/2023 | MIRANDA NAZZARO

[ChicagoConservative27]

Former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) says he thinks it would be a mistake for former President Trump not to attend the upcoming Republican presidential primary debates as the former president threatens to skip it.

“[The race] is certainly his to lose right now. He’s an unconventional candidate. When some people talked about him not going to the upcoming debate in August in Milwaukee — I think that would be a mistake,” Walker told CNN’s Dana Bash on “Inside Politics” on Monday.

[Dr. Sivana]

In fact he adopts the picture video tape as his testimony, or, in common parlance, uses the picture video tape to illustrate his testimony.

It is a substitute inasmuch as the original is not available, so it is treated as testimony. I have been a party in a corporate law case, and if the original is available, it is used. If it is not, only then is a photocopy or fax acceptable. That does not make it the original. Even if the duplicate or recreation is accepted as testimony, it is not the original.

[philman_36]

FIRST-HAND EVIDENCE Definition & Legal Meaningthe evidence that results from seeing an event or being part of an event. You're SEEING it, it matters not how.

[philman_36]

It is a substitute inasmuch as the original is not available...

This is the first sentence at the link!

An original writing, recording, or photograph (and now video tape) is required in order to prove its content unless these rules or a federal statute provides otherwise. Show me from the link where what you say is true.

[Dr. Sivana]

You're SEEING it, it matters not how.

Seeing DIRECTLY. It does matter how.

[Dr. Sivana]

Show me from the link where what you say is true.

None of this has anything to do with the definition of "firsthand".

In any event, I will cite my print edition of Black's Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, on a basic principle of law called "best evidence", since my FIRSTHAND experience in an actual courtroom wasn't sufficient for you.

Best evidence. Primary evidence, as ddistinguished from secondary; original, as distinguished from substitutionary; the best and highest evidence of which the nature of the case is susceptible, not the highest or strongest evidence which the nature of the thing to be proved admits of. A written instrument is itself always regaarded as the primary or best possible evidence of its existence and contents; a copy, or the recollection of a witness, would be secondary evidence." Best evidence rule. The "best evidence rule" prohibits the introduction into evidence of secondary evidence unless it has been shown that the original document has been lost or destroyed or is beyond the jurisdiction of court without fault of the offering party; if original document is lost, then secondary evidence is properly admissible.

[philman_36]

Seeing DIRECTLY.

Yes, directly through a live feed.

It does matter how.

You're right. It has to be live, obviously.

[philman_36]

Sidestep.

[Dr. Sivana]

Yes, directly through a live feed.

As soon as you use the word "through" we are out of the realm of "direct", and into the realm of MEDIA, which means an INTERMEDIARY, which means NOT DIRECT.

[philman_36]

...my FIRSTHAND experience in an actual courtroom wasn't sufficient for you.

Was it Pro Se?

[philman_36]

As soon as you use the word "through" we are out of the realm of "direct", and into the realm of MEDIA, which means an INTERMEDIARY, which means NOT DIRECT.

Then show me IN THE LAW where it becomes intermediary.

You keep saying things and never proving anything.

[Dr. Sivana]

Was it Pro Se?

No. I was witness in a matter between business entities.

I am going pro se against a malicious insurance company. So far the judge has warned the insurance company for an obvious error. My answer has been accepted without issue so far.

[philman_36]

What is live streaming?Live streaming is when the streamed video is sent over the Internet in real time, without first being recorded and stored. Today, TV broadcasts, video game streams, and social media video can all be live-streamed. Thats pretty direct to me.

[philman_36]

Bah! Thats = That’s

[Dr. Sivana]

Then show me IN THE LAW where it becomes intermediary.

You don't ordinarily have a law for when something is what it is. (Legal fictions are an exception to that.)

I am not sure why you directed this discussion to go to arena of court anyway. I am merely stating the fact that the definition of firsthand means "direct" observation. If there is any kind of media device, camera, screen, it is no longer direct.

The fact is, my experience of living and working in Madison, Wisconsin, gave me a fuller understanding of the environment under which Governor Walker was operating.

No matter how much footage you saw, or at what resolution, much of it likely had voice-overs. ALL of what you saw relied on what the cameraman felt like showing you. That is not the same as walking in the downtown, overhearing conversations in the DOT cafeteria, seeing the yard signs in the local neighborhoods, witnessing the violence firsthand (as well as the local media coverage, which was not first hand, but likely more complete than what you would get in Texas), noticing what people WON'T talk about. It is not the same as watching a live feed.

[philman_36]

I am merely stating the fact that the definition of firsthand means "direct" observation.

I agree with that.

What you don't accept is that live video is sent over the Internet in real time!
How much more direct can an observation be than one in REAL TIME?!

[Dr. Sivana]

Thats pretty direct to me.

I am in IT. Between the event and the screen there is a lens, and digital converter, a bunch of processors, an IP connection to a wire or OTA transmission, retransmission through multiple stations, quite possibly a low flying satellite, to the service doing the live stream, through a bunch more processors, through another network connection, through more OTA transmissions, possibly including satellite, to your broadband company, to your network connection, to your phone or screen. Probably causing a two second delay. Some live streams may insert a seven-second delay.

No, that is not direct.

[philman_36]

I am merely stating the fact that the definition of firsthand means "direct" observation.

Show me that in Black's Law Dictionary.

[philman_36]

You didn’t give the definition of firsthand, you gave one for “Best evidence” and “Best evidence rule”.

[philman_36]

Probably causing a two second delay.

Are you KIDDING ME?! Probably?

You don't KNOW? After all, you're in IT.

[philman_36]

There is no result for firsthand (use search) in Black's,
but there is one for first-hand and evidence pops up right with it. the evidence that results from seeing an event or being part of an event.

Seeing something in REAL TIME.