Posted on 07/15/2023 9:28:39 AM PDT by Mariner
The US believes that Russia's current air defence and air force capabilities create "not ideal conditions" for supplying Ukraine with US-made F-16 fighter jets at this time.
Source: Lieutenant General Douglas Sims, Director of Operations of the US Joint Staff, at a briefing on Thursday, quoted by European Pravda
Details: The representative of the US Department of Defence has noted that the conditions under which combat operations take place change over time, "but the conditions right now for the employment of the F-16s are probably not ideal".
Quote: "I mean, the Russians still possess some air defense capability. They have air capability. And the number of F-16s that would be provided may not be perfect for what's going on right now."
Details: At the same time, Sims added that since the future will change, "that certainly will dictate how that is employed".
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They better be cutting a deal with Russia soon before they find themselves standing alone.
>>They better be cutting a deal with Russia soon before they find themselves standing alone.<<
pedo joe and zelensky will be rolling in US Taxpayer $ though.
Maybe there are still a few patriots in the Pentagon who know the F-16’s will be destroyed or end up in the Russians hands.
If history teaches us anything, the same politicians who support Ukraine will eventually turn their backs on them.
Its why they haven’t sent Abrams tanks either, although promised - they are extremely complex to maintain and operate, and are not “stand-alone” weapons
also, Washington DC doesn’t want videos of destroyed Abrams and F-16s appearing on social media from day one of their use.
Reportedly, Zelensky’s been told they have until November to make significant gains. Moving towards Crimea is suicide, so they’ll probably try the east or the very west point to attack at.
Also, it seems the grain deal will not be renewed, so you’ll see skirmishes in the Black Sea again.
It would take Pentagon 6 months to authorize F 16’s for our forces.if
They can’t cut any deals because they are owned by the CIA. The picture of Zelensky at the NATO summit says it all. The Biden is done with him. If he has any sense at all he will be defecting to Russia any day now. He is watching the menu very closely. Probably unless he runs away under cover of darkness, Zelensky will be the star of a state funeral in the next couple of months. Greed is a powerful motivator though so he might be tempted to wait too long thinking his lottery ticket will pay off.
I notice that the Pray for (the dead of) Ukraine threads are no longer appearing daily. UMCrevmo must not be receiving that daily payment anymore.
“ If history teaches us anything, the same politicians who support Ukraine will eventually turn their backs on them. ”
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Yep. It’s already starting if the obvious “ignoring” actions at the NATO conference are an indicative signal.
Agree. The Bay of Pigs adventure was small and ended poorly. This giant "Display of Swine" is huge, but will very likely end like Afghanistan. Or Vietnam, Or Libya. Or Iraq. Or Sudan. Or....
Why F-16s? Why Not F-22s or F-35? If your going to fight a war—send your best.
“The US believes that Russia’s current air defence and air force capabilities create “not ideal conditions” for supplying Ukraine with US-made F-16 fighter jets at this time.”
In other words, countries around the world seeing our fighters being shot down is bad for business.
Well observed.
So part of our war planning requires that battlefield conditions be “ideal”?
I do agree with the General that sending F-16s to Ukraine would be a very expensive, fatal ( to pilots and to the reputation of the F-16 fighter) ) escalation of a predictably fruitless effort to bolster Ukraine’s ground force insufficiency with yet another wunderwaffen.
Not to mention Russian statements that they will consider these aircraft as a nuclear delivery threat.
It’s embarrassing to watch him tap dance.
Our stupid Congress seems to think this is DESERT STORM redux.
Russian EW and AD is not Iraqi.
Russian EW and AD is not Iraqi.
never fear, a armchair warrior will be along to scold you.
Russia is weak. Trans Rainbow warriors will defeat Putin !
Hate to be the lead F-16 on their 1st FAFO mission.
Because presumably Uke pilots must be trained to fly them, and to transition seasoned fighter pilots from the MiG29. Going 4th gen in a short window of time is not realistic.
Plus there could be private concerns that our best and newest ( which we are marketing to other countries) could perform……not as well as advertised in this environment when Russians hold back nothing.
If he has any sense at all he will be defecting to Russia any day now.
IOW, US arms-purchasing countries around the world .......
seeing our fighters being shot down in half-baked Ukraine ......
is bad for the arms business.
Nice insight.
“I notice that the Pray for (the dead of) Ukraine threads are no longer appearing daily. UMCrevmo must not be receiving that daily payment anymore.”
Don’t forget that the Operatives were prohibited from taking part in social media by the Courts (well, for 10 days), so that may be part of why there are less Ukrainian Cheerleaders active. But they’ll be back, thanks to the IDIOTS in the 5th Circuit.
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