Posted on 07/03/2023 11:45:28 AM PDT by proust
The measure (SB 1416) includes doing away with what is known as permanent alimony. DeSantis' approval came a year after he nixed a similar bill that sought to eliminate permanent alimony and set up a formula for alimony amounts based on the length of marriage.
The approval drew an outcry from members of the "First Wives Advocacy Group," a coalition of mostly older women who receive permanent alimony and who assert that their lives will be upended without the payments.
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Not a divorce attorney, so I have no idea.
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I might guess she would only get half the house. Half his stuff? Does she not have any stuff? Child support and child custody affect each other. Usually if custody is 50/50 there is no child support.
So no not necessarily. Each divorce needs to be looked at fairly. If she stepped out on him and has a drug habit and he takes full custody I might say she gets nothing at all. Every situation varies.
She should get some compensation for the years she worked while he was in school and getting started in his career.
A lot of things have to be taken into consideration to determine the amount paid, the time should be the time 1/2 of the time they were married.
I divorced my first wife because she couldn’t keep her legs together. I later found out the guys called her the spreadable spread. She had a fella move in with her the day after I moved out. It didn’t matter, I was on the hook for child support and alimony.
I knew I would be paying child support until my daughter was out of school.
I figured I could prove my ex-wife not needing my support because she had a live in boyfriend.
WRONG!
The judge told me in sharp terms that the alimony was my ex’s income and it would remain in force until she petitioned the court to remove it.
When they had been married for five years my ex got mad at me and carried me to court for more money.
Surprise, surprise!
The old judge had retired and a woman was now the judge. She had the entire case folder and lit into my ex like a mad hen. I ended up walking out owing no further alimony, the child support bumped back to normal levels.
I also got a six year hold on their tax returns. Hallelujah!
The woman judge said she wouldn’t allow alimony to be used as a punishment against men. In her court it would be used to allow the woman enough time to get a job and become secure in the workplace.
What a concept!
As I said earlier, 10 years ago the job market was horrible (for everyone). It’s euphoric for everyone now but especially women. I think you would find a very different experience today.
Perhaps.
But to act as though skipping higher Ed and career building doesn’t effectively make a spouse of 50 reasonably eligible for lifetime alimony if she is an innocent party and he got the degrees and career progress is not reasonable. It should be a possibility in some cases.
I retired from the military and my ex gets a portion of that retirement for life even though I didn’t retire until 12 years after the divorce - even after remarrying and having her own career.
Although individual circumstances vary, there needs to be a review every 5 years of the alimony amount.
Scenario A: You stay married. He works and contributes the money. You manage the household. He retires around 62 (the average age) and stops contributing new money to the marriage. You both provide something to the marriage.
Scenario B: Divorce - you contribute nothing to him ever again, but instead of him contributing to 62 to you - which is all you would get at best in a normal situation - you think he should pay into a relationship for another 25 years on average to 87 for you while you give nothing to him for 35 years? Sorry, not buying it. I can't even understand the pretzel logic of that except greed. Contribute till retirement and no more, period. The length of time till then can be reduced or extended based on the circumstances, but forcing someone to work significantly longer than they would have if they were married and receive nothing in return is not remotely fair, no matter the circumstances.
One thing i would like to see more often is allowing re-marry without losing all of the alimony. That would help the divorced wife as well financially.
“What have you done for me lately?.......HALF!”
think it should depend on who broke the marriage contract.-
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And why.
A person who was very abused and had to leave to protect life, health, wellbeing, should not be penalized for leaving. If an abuser is free and not imprisoned for life, permenant alimony is a small price to pay. How about a couple who’ve been married for 30+ years when yhe other does something worth being left for? If she put her ability to earn her own money, or he otherwise prevented her from earning her own money for a healthy retirement...he should support her for life.
A normal healthy young couple, married for 5 years or some small number, who just can’t get along...very different story.
I can see more than one side of this story. Some cases demand permanent alimony, some cases don’t. If the law allows for these variables, then it’s a good law. If not, it’s a bad one.
If it was me who had to pay, I’d love this law. Sincè men are the usual payees, this law could be seen as one more pounding down of women.
In Ohio, in 1990 and 2003 (guess why I know these dates), alimony was 3 months for every full year a couple was marries, with no alimony if a marriage ended before two full years. An ex-husband could receive alimony if the ex-wife earned more, etc.
For some odd reason, my second wife was in a big hurry to ensure divorce was final 16 days short of two years. I was just glad to end the nightmare.
However, me paying child support (50% of gross income) went on for many months after I had custody, as the bureaucracy moves slowly. Refund? No blood from a stone.
3 months for every year seems reasonable. I’d be on the hook for about $150k/yr in alimony ($275k pre tax income to me) for 9 years at the moment I’d we split (plus half the assets), even though we both agreed I’d retire in 3 years. I think the odds we divorce is fairly low fortunately but crazy things happen.
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Daughters in training.
Divorce is a hundred grand…
$100k as the cost of a divorce?! Maybe early in the last century. Inflation lawyers, and the courts have driven the cost way up.
The typical cost of the divorce proceedings range from $7k to $15k.
Average child support costs range from $400 to $1200 per month, depending upon the state.
On average the wife will get 50% to 65% of the couple’s assets and, if alimony is awarded 50% to 65% of the husband’s pre-tax annual income.
So, if it is an uncontested divorce with no children, no assets, the husband makes $10k a year or less and plans on dying within 18 years of gettin divorced, you might keep the total cost to $100k or less.
Otherwise, depending upon your situation, it is either:
Cheaper to keep her, or
If it flys, floats, or f**cks it is better to rent than own.
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