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Frivolous Trump Arguments against the Mar-a-Lago Indictment
The National Review ^ | 06/12/2023 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 06/12/2023 4:09:22 PM PDT by thegagline

People in their right minds who care about the country could never defend the factual details of Donald Trump’s conduct, as alleged in the federal indictment unsealed last week.

No one is going to say, “It makes total sense to me that he was storing the crown jewels of national defense — such as how other countries could go about attacking American military vulnerabilities — next to the toilet at a beach club.”

No one is going to say, “I can certainly see why Trump would refuse to return such top-secret intelligence to government officials, who pleaded with him for over a year to return it before finally resorting to coercive measures.”

No one is going to say, “It was so vitally important for Trump, who had no official government duties in his post-presidency, to retain possession of top-secret government intelligence reports that it made sense for him to defy a subpoena and mislead a grand jury in order to keep them.”

No one is going to say, “If a Democratic former president had done what Trump did, I’d be fine with that.”

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Since Trump’s conduct is indefensible, his apologists have adopted the familiar tactic of making bombastic claims that the prosecution is so fundamentally unfair and un-American that the facts don’t matter. Remarkably, the people asserting these claims never tire of pointing out that Trump is not merely a former president but a current presidential candidate. Putting aside whether he is guilty of crimes (he appears to be, but he’ll get his day in court), what could possibly be more relevant to his fitness for the presidency than the facts of the case?

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National Review was always gatekeepers for conservative thought, but at least Buckley was smart and funny.
Now I have no idea why its still around.


41 posted on 06/12/2023 4:34:01 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: thegagline

What in the world has happened to Andrew McCarthy? I once thought he had his head screwed on straight. Boy was I wrong or has he totally flipped out? He reminds me of Bill Barr who seems intelligent but is dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to Trump. Both he and McCarthy have severe cases of Trump Derangement Syndrome.


42 posted on 06/12/2023 4:35:47 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: thegagline

So is Andrew McCarthy trying to say that Trump was foolish to not simply sell the documents for ten million like Biden would have? Is that his point?


43 posted on 06/12/2023 4:36:06 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: JonPreston

Rush didn’t live long enough to see the complete beclowning of the National Review and McCarthy.


Oh, please.

Rush would fellate McCarthy every time he was on. Just like he fellated Paul Ryan in January 2017 when he was a guest caller.


44 posted on 06/12/2023 4:36:30 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: Alberta's Child

As President, Trump truly had the right to declassify any documents he wanted to. However, unfortunately, there is little evidence to show that he did declassify any of the documents that are cited in the indictment against him. Worse, Trump’s statements recorded on tape appear to indicate he never de-classified all the documents in his possession, which has been the core of the public defense since this story broke.

I still don’t think he’s worthy of prosecution over this, for a long list of reasons. But since the charges have been brought, he will have to defend himself before the court, and the judge. His best hope is that the charges will be thrown out, in deference to the Presidential Records Act, which the indictment didn’t even acknowledge, but that is probably a long shot.


45 posted on 06/12/2023 4:36:35 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: Chgogal

Andrew McCarthy is what is wrong with the GOPe elite.

He was all in on Trump-Russia as well.


46 posted on 06/12/2023 4:36:46 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Classified and National Security Documents in garages, Hillary’s bathroom, a Felon’s Computer where he was swapping files with other Felons, stored in Yahoo and public Email accounts were no problem.

In fact, per the DoJ, it was insurmountable to prove Ill intent, even after Hillary hired a firm to wipe her Servers where they couldn’t be Forensically reconstructed. Hillary even told the FBI they needed to wrap it up - and they did!

Conveniently, they expect you to wear blinders and be outraged at Trump, alone.

They just let Biden’s personal attorneys conduct the “search” for his Top Secret National Security Documents.


47 posted on 06/12/2023 4:37:20 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: iontheball

What in the world has happened to Andrew McCarthy?


30 pieces of silver from the Deep State will do that.

Ask Benedict Pence.


48 posted on 06/12/2023 4:38:36 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: thegagline

My understanding is that the FBI put the docs in the bathroom while they were collecting the documents during the raid.

Trump has the power to declassify, so they were not there illegally.

McCarthy mentions nothing of the Biden bribery scheme unfolding, nor a word about Biden who had classified docs as a vp and senator in his garage.

F Andrew McCarthy. These weak hacks need to be purged from the GOP.


49 posted on 06/12/2023 4:38:47 PM PDT by stratboy
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50 posted on 06/12/2023 4:39:34 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: thegagline

People in their right minds who care about the country could never defend the National Review for being such nitpicking Media-Dem supporting aholes.


51 posted on 06/12/2023 4:40:47 PM PDT by euram (allALL)
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52 posted on 06/12/2023 4:40:55 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: AnthonySoprano

But who in their right mind would watch this fool? Or that network?


53 posted on 06/12/2023 4:41:01 PM PDT by stratboy
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To: Parley Baer
Andy McCarthy is the same jackass who criticized the Trump administration for firing FBI hack Andrew McCabe even after acknowledging that McCabe was a criminal. That right there was enough to convince me that Federal prosecutors and "law enforcement" personnel should always be presumed to be duplicitous liars.

The guy who pays the biggest price for this right now -- in my humble opinion -- is Ron DeSantis. He's a former Federal prosecutor himself, which means he deserves all the respect any normal, decent American would give to a child molester.

54 posted on 06/12/2023 4:41:36 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Drago

I’m sorry, I assumed you saw the video posted on FR several times today including in this thread.

Robert Barnes breaks down the case listing every violation of the constitution. 50 min video well worth watching and more proof that these ‘expert talking heads’ are either stupid, gaslighting or paid opposition.

https://rumble.com/v2tn4ac-get-this-video-to-trump-barnes-breaks-down-federal-indictment-viva-frei-liv.html


55 posted on 06/12/2023 4:44:13 PM PDT by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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To: Golden Eagle
However, unfortunately, there is little evidence to show that he did declassify any of the documents that are cited in the indictment against him.

The President of the United States has no obligation to formally "declassify" anything. And without making any official statement about these materials he can establish any limited form of "declassification" that he wishes -- e.g., that he can determine that he can use the material freely but refuse to share it with anyone else (reporters, political advisors, etc.).

56 posted on 06/12/2023 4:45:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Moe-Patrick

OK, I’ll watch...thanks for the link.

The “Article II” areas that may apply liked below...(good for presidential communications/discussions, but not classified briefing materials?...will see what R. Barnes has to say):

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S3-4-3/ALDE_00013379/

and

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S3-4-4/ALDE_00013380/


57 posted on 06/12/2023 4:47:35 PM PDT by Drago
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To: thegagline

Andrew McCarthy just made public claims about what documented were in question after the Trump Raid. Trumps lawyers can’t get copies or even a brief description, but a TB hack now has full access.

They secrets can’t be important if the journalist already know what in the papers……. Somebody already leaked it from the DOJ or FBI, which means it’s not important.

Either that or it’s just another political garbage article. Just saying


58 posted on 06/12/2023 4:48:37 PM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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Andrew McCarthy and Brett Baier make out they don’t know this.


Hunter used Classified Intelligence Briefings - sold them, in effect. If Trump got a better contract from a Foreign Entity for Classified Intel Assessments, what would they call it?



59 posted on 06/12/2023 4:48:44 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: AnthonySoprano

Where are all the Trump endorsed RINOs? AWOL as usual.


60 posted on 06/12/2023 4:51:14 PM PDT by lodi90
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