Posted on 06/02/2023 3:50:24 PM PDT by Mariner
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken says there can be no cease-fire in the war in Ukraine unless it is part of a “just and lasting” peace deal that includes Russia’s military withdrawal. Blinken said Friday that “a ceasefire that simply freezes current lines in place” and enabled Russian President Vladimir Putin to “rest, rearm, and re-attack” would not be “a just and lasting peace.” In a speech during a visit to Finland, Blinken said that Russia must also pay for part of Ukraine’s reconstruction and be held accountable for its full-scale invasion of its neighbor in February last year.
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Friday that a cease-fire in the war in Ukraine could not be declared unless it was part of a “just and lasting” peace deal that included Russia’s military withdrawal.
Blinken said that “a cease-fire that simply freezes current lines in place” and allowed Russian President Vladimir Putin “to consolidate control over the territory he has seized, and rest, rearm, and reattack — that is not a just and lasting peace.”
Russia must also pay a share of Ukraine’s reconstruction and be held accountable for launching its full-scale invasion of its neighbor in February 2022, Blinken said in a speech during a visit to Finland, which recently joined NATO and shares a long border with Russia.
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Offer good for ten days, after that they’re gonna lose Odessa oblast.
“And Ukraine does not get a vote in these important matters.”
Withdrawal of all Russian forces from Ukrainian territory has been one of Ukraine’s firmest positions for over a year.
You speak as if you know what your are talking about lol
“Actually, the Russians were asked to come in by Referendum. Voting is a peculiar thing.”
LEGAL voting is a wonderful thing. The Ukrainian constitution established the parameters of referenda, and no such referenda have ever been held on this subject. ILLEGAL referenda were held after the fact (i.e., after Russia had already moved into eastern Ukraine).
“Russia doesn’t want peace until they have security on their western border, something they haven’t had since 2014.”
Russia (as a country) has had peace on its western border since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. And it had it until it invaded Ukraine in 2014, and broke that peace.
Revolutions overthrow Constitutions. Law abiding citizens are obligated to secede.
“The ‘all it has to do is withdraw’ slogan is bumper-sticker logic.”
It’s basic logic: Generally, if the aggressor ceases his aggression and goes back home there can be peace.
Illegal annexations, recognized by almost no one (not even Russia’s “good friend” China has recognized the annexations).
“China and Turkey are going to arrange the treaty without him by August”.
Good!
The Ukrainian constitution that addressed referenda, which would apply in this instance, was legally established before the illegal referenda were held.
“Pretending there was peace is not the same thing as actual peace.”
But there WAS peace vis-a-vis Russia. Russia broke that peace in 2014 when it invaded Ukraine and fostered the attempted secessions of the self-declared LPR and DPR.
“Ethnic Russians were getting shelled by Ukraine 50 miles from the border for eight years.”
They started a civil war. Both sides in the civil war attacked the other for eight years.
“Can you imagine if a large American expat community was under artillery fire in Ciudad Juarez?”
False analogy. Expats LEAVE their home country for another country and renounce any allegiance to their home country. No such condition existed in eastern Ukraine.
“The United States threatened war with Mexico when two American tourists were shot by Mexican drug runners.”
Cite your source for that, with a link or an attribution.
How about when "ukraine" simply runs out of cannon fodder and ammo and surrenders? Some reason not to call that a cease fire"????
Do these people take stupid pills???
Does the Ukrainian constitution address illegal Revolutions?
“Does the Ukrainian constitution address illegal Revolutions?”
Read it for yourself:
https://rm.coe.int/constitution-of-ukraine/168071f58b
if Russia really wants peace, all it has to do is withdraw its invading troops back to Russia
But what about this: “Russia must also pay a share of Ukraine’s reconstruction and be held accountable for launching its full-scale invasion of its neighbor in February 2022”
Not so simple is it? Who is going to enforce that?
I read a couple months ago the Russia and Ukraine reached a tentative agreement but the US would not agree to it.
We should not be sticking our nose where it does not belong.
Ukraine is being destroyed & will not exist. Thanks to Blinktard & the NeoCons.
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