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“Russia doesn’t want peace until they have security on their western border, something they haven’t had since 2014.”

Russia (as a country) has had peace on its western border since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. And it had it until it invaded Ukraine in 2014, and broke that peace.

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Russia (as a country) has had peace on its western border since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. And it had it until it invaded Ukraine in 2014, and broke that peace.

Pretending there was peace is not the same thing as actual peace. Ethnic Russians were getting shelled by Ukraine 50 miles from the border for eight years. Can you imagine if a large American expat community was under artillery fire in Ciudad Juarez? It wouldn't have lasted more than eight days. The United States threatened war with Mexico when two American tourists were shot by Mexican drug runners.