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Trump Calls 6-Week Abortion Limit ‘Too Harsh’
PJ Media ^ | 05/15/2023 | Matt Margolis

Posted on 05/15/2023 8:27:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SecondAmendment

Where did I say it was not. I think abortion is wrong, gravely morally wrong. What I said was absent an Amendment to the Constitution a Federal law is just that. The next administration can undue it.

I am not talking about abortion from a moral or theological perspective, in the Catholic Tradition, it has been condemned since the Didache written circa 100AD. I am talking about the issue from the political perspective.


101 posted on 05/16/2023 6:54:49 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: dpetty121263

A lot of folks are projecting onto Trump what they want Trump to be. Unfortunately, we’ve learned he isn’t nearly what conservatives want. At this rate conservatism will be an ideological smoking ruin post 2024.


102 posted on 05/16/2023 6:56:48 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

Much iron in your comment Conservatism is dying out and being replaced with Populism...


103 posted on 05/16/2023 7:01:17 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: TheGunny

>> isn’t it a contradiction that he would criticize a Governor (State) for making policy on the issue?

The way a state determines policy is through dialog and argument to convince the voters of which policy best fits those who live in that state. Criticism is part of argument.


104 posted on 05/16/2023 7:08:46 AM PDT by mairdie (Grandfather Jack Bell - miner, reporter, lawman, naturalist - https://youtu.be/Dnnb63UEk9c)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Actually, it is.

Aside from a few sorts of places (Territories, the seat of government, etc) the federal doesn’t have an enumerated power to be concerned with many crimes, including murder.


105 posted on 05/16/2023 7:11:04 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Moe-Patrick

So good I had to read it twice. That was the voice of millions of patriots across America! Thank you.


106 posted on 05/16/2023 8:13:16 AM PDT by aligncare ( Make America Great Again…Trump 2024)
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To: aligncare

I appreciate that very much.


107 posted on 05/16/2023 9:24:29 AM PDT by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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To: CTrent1564
> Where did I say it was not. I think abortion is wrong, gravely morally wrong. ... I am talking about the issue from the political perspective.

It is rare when a culturally popular policy position is so detestable, and when your opposition as a believer no matter what the cost is equally obvious

"What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?"
- Mark 8:36
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108 posted on 05/16/2023 9:48:36 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: SecondAmendment

I can make a moral case against Abortion and proclaim the Gospel of Life regardless if we ae in a pre-Roe v Wade or post Roe V Wade and now back to in reality a pre USA Roe v Wade.

The issue is are we trying to have a Federal Law that outlaws Abortion, that while consistent with my Catholic pro life theology, is not going to work unless it is a Constitutional amendment. A simple law that restricts Abortion at the Federal level can be repealed by a Dem Administration.

If a Federal Law is to be passed, absent a Constitutional amendment, it will have to probably in my view rely on viability of the unborn infant to make a law and that could perhaps be upheld by SCOTUS.

So this article is about the Legal and political realities of abortion and is not best I can tell from a Theologian be they Catholic (which I am), Eastern Orthodox or among the various protestant confessions.


109 posted on 05/16/2023 12:39:37 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564
> If a Federal Law is to be passed, absent a Constitutional amendment, it will have to probably in my view rely on viability of the unborn infant to make a law and that could perhaps be upheld by SCOTUS.

Well abortion, like slavery is based on the assumption that a human being can be the property of another.

So yes, we would need the equivalent of a Thirteenth Amendment to protect the unborn.

And yes, it will almost certainly result in hostilities, but so be it.

110 posted on 05/16/2023 1:50:06 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: jarwulf

Trump was by-and-large a very good President. He made mistakes (surrounding himself with backstabber and, as a result screwed up the response to the Coronavirus attack). As a human being and citizen, I think DeSantis is a better person and about as good as a politician can be. NEVERTHELESS, I will vote for Trump in the primary (unless he keeps running his mouth being an ass) because I think he was cheated from his second term, will come back with blood in his eye with lessons learned, and with the help of Congress do the sweep needed on the bureaucratic federal government. Abortion was and should be a state issue like murder.


111 posted on 05/16/2023 3:40:49 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: SeekAndFind

The title is a big fat lie. He said that “MANY PEOPLE” feel that.

“many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.”


112 posted on 05/16/2023 3:48:17 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Worrying doesn't take away tomorrow's troubles. It takes away today's peace.)
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To: Rurudyne

Actually, its both state and federal.

States can bring murder charges and so can the feds.

So...


113 posted on 05/16/2023 5:14:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Only if it is in a special jurisdiction of the federal government, which excludes the ordinary jurisdictions of any State.

Murder is not generally a federal matter. Despite the lawless assertion otherwise no private Person, not a state Actor, is liable to honor federal civil rights among the several States,


114 posted on 05/16/2023 9:22:43 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SecondAmendment

“Killing innocent, defenseless children is evil period.“

Very true, but in business and politics, you make the best deal you can at the time, rather than hold out for perfection. Then later, make an even better deal, when the opportunity presents itself.

Sadly, there is a significant percentage of American citizens who do not agree abortion is evil, and like it or not, they have a say in this.

Negotiating good deals is what President Trump does best, and he doesn’t approach it by striking untenable positions.


115 posted on 05/17/2023 7:49:24 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: MayflowerMadam
“many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.”

That is an ignorant an untruthful statement. It's also a weasel-phrase. "Many people believe X" often means "I believe X, but I'm not willing to take responsibility for my belief so I'll hide behind nameless, faceless, imaginary 'many people'".

The real problem here is that Donald Trump and his sycophants are unwilling to credit anybody else with doing good things.

116 posted on 05/17/2023 7:56:45 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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