Posted on 05/15/2023 8:27:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
In an interview published on Monday, former President Trump said that a six-week limit on abortion is excessively strict. If you’re thinking this is a curious position for a Republican presidential candidate to take, I suppose I should offer some context. Trump was specifically referring to Florida’s heartbeat bill, which was recently signed into law by… Gov. Ron DeSantis.
When questioned about Florida’s new abortion regulations in an interview with The Messenger, Trump responded by saying that DeSantis had to make decisions based on his own judgment. Trump also suggested that there were doubts about whether DeSantis fully understood the implications of signing the six-week restriction, as some individuals within the pro-life movement believed it was too severe.
“He has to do what he has to do,” Trump said. “If you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don’t even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.”
Who was he referring to? Who knows?
DeSantis signed the six-week abortion ban last month, after having previously signed a 15-week ban a year prior. The new law includes exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother. Trump, however, was unwilling to explain exactly what restrictions he’d support, instead saying he was considering all available options, and touted his role in getting Roe v. Wade overturned.
“For 50 years, they’ve been trying to get rid of Roe v Wade. I was able to do it. Nobody else could have done that but me. And I was able to do it [by nominating] three excellent judges on the [sic] Justices of the Supreme Court. And I was able to do that,” Trump explained. “I’m looking at all alternatives.
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Where did I say it was not. I think abortion is wrong, gravely morally wrong. What I said was absent an Amendment to the Constitution a Federal law is just that. The next administration can undue it.
I am not talking about abortion from a moral or theological perspective, in the Catholic Tradition, it has been condemned since the Didache written circa 100AD. I am talking about the issue from the political perspective.
A lot of folks are projecting onto Trump what they want Trump to be. Unfortunately, we’ve learned he isn’t nearly what conservatives want. At this rate conservatism will be an ideological smoking ruin post 2024.
Much iron in your comment Conservatism is dying out and being replaced with Populism...
>> isn’t it a contradiction that he would criticize a Governor (State) for making policy on the issue?
The way a state determines policy is through dialog and argument to convince the voters of which policy best fits those who live in that state. Criticism is part of argument.
Actually, it is.
Aside from a few sorts of places (Territories, the seat of government, etc) the federal doesn’t have an enumerated power to be concerned with many crimes, including murder.
So good I had to read it twice. That was the voice of millions of patriots across America! Thank you.
I appreciate that very much.
It is rare when a culturally popular policy position is so detestable, and when your opposition as a believer no matter what the cost is equally obvious
"What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?"
- Mark 8:36.
I can make a moral case against Abortion and proclaim the Gospel of Life regardless if we ae in a pre-Roe v Wade or post Roe V Wade and now back to in reality a pre USA Roe v Wade.
The issue is are we trying to have a Federal Law that outlaws Abortion, that while consistent with my Catholic pro life theology, is not going to work unless it is a Constitutional amendment. A simple law that restricts Abortion at the Federal level can be repealed by a Dem Administration.
If a Federal Law is to be passed, absent a Constitutional amendment, it will have to probably in my view rely on viability of the unborn infant to make a law and that could perhaps be upheld by SCOTUS.
So this article is about the Legal and political realities of abortion and is not best I can tell from a Theologian be they Catholic (which I am), Eastern Orthodox or among the various protestant confessions.
Well abortion, like slavery is based on the assumption that a human being can be the property of another.
So yes, we would need the equivalent of a Thirteenth Amendment to protect the unborn.
And yes, it will almost certainly result in hostilities, but so be it.
Trump was by-and-large a very good President. He made mistakes (surrounding himself with backstabber and, as a result screwed up the response to the Coronavirus attack). As a human being and citizen, I think DeSantis is a better person and about as good as a politician can be. NEVERTHELESS, I will vote for Trump in the primary (unless he keeps running his mouth being an ass) because I think he was cheated from his second term, will come back with blood in his eye with lessons learned, and with the help of Congress do the sweep needed on the bureaucratic federal government. Abortion was and should be a state issue like murder.
The title is a big fat lie. He said that “MANY PEOPLE” feel that.
“many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.”
Actually, its both state and federal.
States can bring murder charges and so can the feds.
So...
Only if it is in a special jurisdiction of the federal government, which excludes the ordinary jurisdictions of any State.
Murder is not generally a federal matter. Despite the lawless assertion otherwise no private Person, not a state Actor, is liable to honor federal civil rights among the several States,
“Killing innocent, defenseless children is evil period.“
Very true, but in business and politics, you make the best deal you can at the time, rather than hold out for perfection. Then later, make an even better deal, when the opportunity presents itself.
Sadly, there is a significant percentage of American citizens who do not agree abortion is evil, and like it or not, they have a say in this.
Negotiating good deals is what President Trump does best, and he doesn’t approach it by striking untenable positions.
That is an ignorant an untruthful statement. It's also a weasel-phrase. "Many people believe X" often means "I believe X, but I'm not willing to take responsibility for my belief so I'll hide behind nameless, faceless, imaginary 'many people'".
The real problem here is that Donald Trump and his sycophants are unwilling to credit anybody else with doing good things.
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