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To: Morgana

He’ll appeal and then put on his defense, which he intentionally held back.


9 posted on 05/09/2023 12:20:48 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston
He’ll appeal and then put on his defense, which he intentionally held back.

As a general rule, you can't introduce new evidence on an appeal. You're supposed to make your case the first time.

The problem is that even a juror with no bias one way or the other about Trump might well be swayed by his failure to testify. Only two people know what really happened (or didn't happen) in that dressing room. One of them testified. The other chose not to dispute her account under oath. If you were on the jury, and the plaintiff and the defendant were two ordinary people you'd never heard of before, what inference would you draw?
74 posted on 05/09/2023 12:38:31 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: JonPreston

The testimony of any witness is suffice to prove any point of believed by the jury. The appellate court does NOT weigh the evidence. The starting point of the appellate analysis begins with the principle that the judgment is presumed to be correct and legal error by the trial court has to be affirmatively shown.

I know there are some concerns regarding interim rulings by the judge, but I can’t say I’ve studied the case and know what they are. That the jury did not find liability on the most serious allegation sets this judgment in concert. It will not be disturbed on appeal

Damn the media. In all the years I’ve paid attention never once have I heard media explain just how tough a road appeal is. I think the general population thinks an appeal is just a chance for a mulligan.
Nothing could be farther from accurate. If appealed,
I’d bet ten thousand bucks this verdict gets upheld


82 posted on 05/09/2023 12:42:01 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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Why would anyone save their defense for an appeal, especially if it’s the case that new evidence can’t be introduced in an appeal, as the other poster said. That makes no sense. If his defense was good why didn’t he use it now?


91 posted on 05/09/2023 12:43:38 PM PDT by Kathy in OC
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To: JonPreston
He'll appeal and then put on his defense, which he intentionally held back.

Your theory runs counter to the legal maxim that you cannot complain of an error you intentionally committed.

97 posted on 05/09/2023 12:45:43 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: JonPreston
He’ll appeal and then put on his defense, which he intentionally held back.

That’s not how an appeal works. The trial court is the venue that hears and determines facts. You can’t just hold back testimony during the trial and expect to present it to the appellate court. They don’t do that. The appellate court (generally, with some very limited exceptions) only looks at whether the trial court correctly applied the law. An appellate hearing doesn’t look anything like the trial. There’s no witness stand and no witnesses. It’s just the opposing attorneys making legal arguments before a panel of judges, with the losing side arguing why the trial court made some fundamental legal error and the winning side trying to refute the loser’s argument by explaining why the trial court did not err..

Now if the trial court did make a significant legal error, then there’s hope. Who knows in this case, but it seems to me that what the New York legislature did by just arbitrarily opening up a new one-year window for all kinds of screwed-up women to make unsubstantiated, decades-old allegations against men they hate should be unconstitutional. It seems like a gross miscarriage of justice to enable one person to accuse another of something, so long after the alleged incident that there is nothing but rank speculation that can be offered as “evidence”, and to not even require the plaintiff to demonstrate any actual injury. My suspicion, though, is that if the law is unconstitutional it is something they the trial and appellate courts cannot change, and would require an appeal to the state Supreme Court or more likely a lawsuit against the State of New York.

Those are just my very non-lawyer thoughts.

101 posted on 05/09/2023 12:46:41 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.y )
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To: JonPreston

You can’t bring up new facts on an appeal.


119 posted on 05/09/2023 12:53:25 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: JonPreston

Unless a new trial is ordered an appeal works from the record of the trial court and no be evidence is considered. The appeal is to determine if there were errors as a matter of law.

As this is a civil case the standard is a preponderance of the evidence. By trunk not putting on a defense the preponderance of the evidence by definition favored the petitioner. It is unclear to me why Trump failed to put on a defense. His expert pulling out was a bit surprising. Additionally I wonder if his calculus was not to take the stand as it may hurt him in other cases.

In either event regardless of the actual truth, this verdict and Trumps on again off again testimony is not particularly great optics. The truth is not particularly important in politics. The appearance here — being found liable for sexual abuse and battery will drive a wedge much further between him and the suburban women demographic. This will reduce his chances of winning a general election.


174 posted on 05/09/2023 2:01:38 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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