Posted on 05/09/2023 12:18:04 PM PDT by Morgana
A jury has found that Donald Trump sexually abused E. Jean Carroll.
The panel of six men and three women also found that Trump injured advice columnist Carroll in a Manhattan Bergdorf Goodman dressing room and defamed her, ordering the former President to pay her $5million in damages.
Trump has been accused of sexual misconduct or assault by more than two dozen women, but this has so far been the only case to end up before a jury.
Carroll, 79, sued for battery under the Adult Survivors Act, a law passed in New York that allowed a one year window for sexual assault claims normally outside of the statute of limitations.
Her claim for defamation was based on statements made by Trump, 76, when he was President and posts to Truth Social, his own social network in which he called her a liar.
Over two weeks the jury heard emotional testimony from three accusers and two of Carroll's friends, among other witnesses, while Trump himself was a no show.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Whether or not it was deserved, it was the worst possible time for him to say it. It shows poor judgment and self-discipline.
Lighten up, Francis...clearly you missed the point.
Thanks for proving my point, you can take bribes, get impeached and convicted, and hold another Federal office AS LONG AS YOU ARE A LEFTIST DEMOCRAT.
I didn’t miss the point at all, but clearly, we’re having two different conversations.
All I’m saying is that his attempts to be clever and sarcastic cost him.
A sworn statement is all they need? That is crap IMHO. No, you should not be able to molest someone with impunity, but if all that person has is a sworn statement, too bad, so sad. You are right though that Trump made a mistake.
Good grief....you STILL don’t get it.
btw, thanks for outing yourself as a Never-Trumper with your idiotic “his attempts to be clever and sarcastic cost him” comment.
Now slither back to your RDS/JEB camp...and please clap.
I do get it. And is anything I said inaccurate, given the results of the trial? Did his joke cost him or not?
Not for RDS. Not for JEB! But nice try, though.
I’m still for the rule of law, not the rule of man. Still for founding documents.
The judge in this case was so biased against the Trump team he not only had his thumb on the scales of justice, he had his entire butt sitting on the scales on the Plaintiff’s side.
Judge Kaplan (yes, the same name as the Plaintiff’s lead attorney) would sustained every single one of the Plaintiff’s objections, no matter what it was. He cited New York State Law incorrectly, and his own Circuit’s rules wrongly to rule against trump, and ‘schooled’ the Trump attorneys, who had years of litigation and trial experience, in front of the jury on ‘how to properly cross examine a witness!’ Multiple times, the judge jumped in to answer a question asked of a witness to answer the question for the witness, instead of allowing the witness to answer. He bailed witnesses out of being impeached on their own testimony in discovery by interrupting the Trump Attorney and telling to stop asking that and move on. When it came to a question of dates and times, the judge interrupted to say “We can all do math, move on!” not allowing the point to be made. At every opportunity, the judge sidetracked the Defense’s tactics to question the witnesses. He allowed witnesses who had not been through Voir dire by the defence to testify contrary to the rules of evidence. Yet would not allow the Trump witnesses they wanted to bring. He ruled that TRUE facts the Trump team wanted to bring in be brought up, even though E. Jean Carroll had actually testified about her awareness of them. He even excluded these actual facts from the closing argument and in his Jury instructions told them that they could not include them AS FACTS in their deliberations.
There are so many examples of Judicial misconduct on the record that Trump’s team wrote to the judge asking for a mistrial half way through the trial due to his ‘blatant misconduct,’ giving seven specific examples among many. Judge Kaplan denied it out of hand. This egregious conduct is more than enough reason to appeal on these grounds as well… in addition to the passage of an ex post facto law invalidating the long past statute of limitations for such suits which many spoken arguments at the time of passage were claiming would allow for “getting Donald Trump!” Such ex post facto laws are on their face unconstitutional, especially ones aimed at specific individuals.
Your study of the issue with the judge, is really good, and Trump should win an appeal.
Yet, I was hoping . . . wondering where are the many victims of sex trafficking (re Jeffrey Epstein case and other cases). The victims have their chance to expose and sue:
- the long list of sex trafficking clients
- corrupt politicians representing New York in years past
- corrupt law enforcement agencies, departments, and
- other institutions that insulated abusers from justice:
“Survivors are not limited to suing their abusers - they can also hold accountable the institutions that insulated those abusers from justice.”
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/new-york-adult-survivors-act
EXCERPTS:
Who can you sue?
Another powerful provision of the law is who it allows to be named as a defendant. Survivors are not limited to suing their abusers - they can also hold accountable the institutions that insulated those abusers from justice. These institutions can include entities that had responsibility to keep the survivor safe and to control the actions of the abuser. Claims against the institutions can involve both intentional and negligent acts. If your abuser was part of a larger organization that contributed to or failed to prevent, notice, or stop the abuse, the ASA empowers you to go after that organization.
Judge Kaplan not only had his thumb on the scales of Justice for E. Jean Carroll and against Donald Trump, he apparently moved his bench to the plaintiff’s table! He sustained objection the plaintiff did not make on perfectly legitimate lines of questioning and admonished and ‘schooled’ the defense attorneys multiple times in front of the jury on how to cross examine witnesses. Then he asked question of the witnesses FOR the plaintiff’s attorney to ‘fix’ errors they’d made in the judge’s mind in their testimony. He interrupted the defense attorney when they were making cogent points tying E. Jean up in logical knots, and stopping them, forcing them to move on to something else before the illogicality was complete. The judge ANSWERED questions for the witnesses numerous times.
There was so much judicial error and bias that Trump’s attorneys requested a mistrial halfway through the plaintiff’s case, citing seven egregious examples of judicial misconduct. Kaplan denied it and doubled down on his behavior.
It’s worse than that.
Carroll testified the attack took place in the women’s department of Bergdorf Goodmans late in the evening. No one noticed Donald Trump going with her up six floors. (The sales associates work on commission in that store!) No one approached them. When they got to the women’s department, she wrote and testified, there was no one on the entire floor. No sales associates, no customers, nobody.
She and Trump start browsing the lingerie section of the store where she models some of the lingerie for him. . . In the aisles, apparently unsaid over her clothes or not. She then picks out a baby blue sheer teddy and he says "put it on!" E. Jean, teasingly suggests Trump put it on instead, saying, "it’s your color, it matches your eyes” but then goes into a changing room and locks the door (the women’s department manager from that period had testified the door frames had curtains, just before Carroll’s testimony), when Trump came crashing through the door and pushed her up against the wall…
So, several things come up… E. Jean Carroll had been a writer or Saturday Night Live and before the time the Trump event supposedly occurred, she wrote a skit for SNL in which a star and a woman are browsing the lingerie department and a baby blue teddy is brought out and the EXACT SCENARIO is played out except the male star actually puts the Teddy on over his suit! This aired on SNL several years prior to the mid-1990s.
Then another witness, one E.Jean says she called the night of the supposed attack after she drove home, testifies that E. Jean was laughing and giddy about it… saying she wanted to tell her an exciting and funny story of what happened to her… but more importantly, the phone call came while she was making Mac n’ Cheese and hotdogs for her 3 and 6 year old kids’ dinner, between 6 and 7 pm… not late in the evening. This would have placed the supposed attack even earlier when people were getting off work and stopping in Bergdorf Goodmans to buy stuff on the way home. It would not have been empty!
E Jean Carroll testified she didn’t want to report her rape to the police because that would take attention away from the migrant women being raped at the border in the crisis there. Uh, what migrant border crisis in the mid 1990s?
Law & Order SVU aired an episode in September 2012, #67, in which a New York Federal Judge was depicted as invading a Bergdorf Goodman lingerie Department dressing room and assaulting and raping a woman. Then denying it. E.Jean Carroll admitted she was aware of it and said she was a fan of the Law & Order series, but, no, she didn’t like the violent nature of the SVU version.
What strange coincidences. She used to have watch parties.
I think the woman believes her very vivid sexual dreams. She said that she was first sexually molested by a camp counselor named Cam, when she was twelve years old, on a stage while 100 other campers and counselors watched. Another sexual assault was by Les Moonves, the CEO of CBS News as they were going up in an elevator in the CBS News headquarters building, where the elevator could have stopped on any floor. She claimed her dentist raped her in the dental chair. But the dentistry profession is really skittish about a male doctor being alone with a female patient because of a huge malpractice award back in the 1970s. So dentists make certain they have their chairside assistants with them… plus office staff nearby.
None of these were permitted by Judge Kaplan to be admitted. But Trump’s peccadillos were fair game.
If her repeated claims of improbable rapes don’t raise eyebrows, they make me think she’s dreaming a lot. Yet she was a sex advice columnist for Elle Magazine, and advised Rape victims to always report the attacks.
When asked why she’s not going after Les Moonves when he said it never happened, she said "he didn’t call me a liar, and Donald Trump said I was ugly."
That was not what Donald Trump said, Trump merely said, "Look at here, she’s not my type."
E. Jean Carroll heard that as "look at her, she’s ugly!" She even testified "he said I was ugly, that’s why I’m suing him."
Read the leftists between the lines in this law. It’s intended to get the Catholic Church. The Oakland Catholic Diocese just declared bankruptcy last week because California also allows going after the institutions.
I write this as a person who signed a multi-felony indictment against a Catholic Priest for embezzling from his own Cathedral.
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