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Popular handgun fires without anyone pulling the trigger, victims say
WaPo via SFGate ^ | 4/11/2023 | By Champe Barton and Tom Jackman

Posted on 04/11/2023 1:21:01 PM PDT by NohSpinZone

One warm afternoon in May, Dwight Jackson was getting dressed for a visit to his favorite cigar lounge. He slipped his holstered SIG Sauer P320 pistol onto his belt, put on a button-down shirt and leaned across his bed for his wallet. Suddenly, he said, the gun fired, sending a bullet tearing through his right buttock and into his left ankle.

"I heard 'bang!'" said Jackson, 47, a locomotive engineer who lives in Locust Grove, Ga. "I looked down and saw blood."

His wife heard the shot from down the hall and screamed. She called an ambulance while Jackson hobbled toward the front door, painting a trail of blood over the hardwood floors.

The P320 is one of the nation's most popular handguns. A variant of the weapon is the standard-issue sidearm for every branch of the U.S. military. Since its introduction to the commercial market in 2014, manufacturer SIG Sauer has sold the P320 to hundreds of thousands of civilians, and the gun has been used by officers at more than a thousand law enforcement agencies across the nation, court records show.

It has also gruesomely injured scores of people who say the gun has a potentially deadly defect.

More than 100 people allege that their P320 pistols discharged when they did not pull the trigger, an eight-month investigation by The Washington Post and The Trace has found. At least 80 people were wounded in the shootings, which date to 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; handgun; shooting; sigsauer; trigger
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To: NohSpinZone
My initial thought when I see claims that a handgun fired "without pressure on the trigger" is that someone had their finger on the trigger and simply pulled it without realizing it.

But some of these claims are that it fired while holstered, which is a very different thing. Not fired while holstering, or fired while unholstering, but fired while in the holster.

41 posted on 04/11/2023 2:19:32 PM PDT by jdege
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To: ltc8k6

I’ve never owned a pistol that didn’t have a safety feature.


42 posted on 04/11/2023 2:19:50 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: CopperTop
"..At least the carpet wasn’t ruined.."

I painted The Dude from The Big Lebowski, spent far too long on the rug  detail! : r/pics

Dude

43 posted on 04/11/2023 2:20:48 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Derelict At Large)
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To: NohSpinZone

First thing out of anyone’s mouth that shoots themselves.. the gun just went off.


44 posted on 04/11/2023 2:23:02 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: NohSpinZone

I knew this was going to be about the P320 before I even read the details.

People swear by this pistol but for some reason there has a been ton of concern over it.

Where there is smoke there is fire.

I think I’ll pass on this one.


45 posted on 04/11/2023 2:26:12 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: ltc8k6

“No safety on the civilian P320 as far as I know.”

The M17 and M18 versions are the only ones with manual safeties.


46 posted on 04/11/2023 2:28:18 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: NohSpinZone

There’s some independent researchers right there…/sarc


47 posted on 04/11/2023 2:30:17 PM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: NohSpinZone
Just because he didn't pull the finger with his finger doesn't mean he didn't fir the gun.

My truck locks and unlocks even though the key fob isn't in my hand... walking with the fob in my pocket presses the buttons... I sometimes wonder how many other people have this happen to them?

They leave their vehicle, press the fob to lock their doors, hear the beep and place the fob in their pocket and unbeknownst to them, the doors soon unlock.

If you were to walk through parking lot and check doors, I often wonder how many would be open even though the owner swears they locked the doors when walking away?

48 posted on 04/11/2023 2:32:57 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Bratch

Dummy, it’s never going to happen…unless…you set a box of 16 penny nails next to it, watch out!


49 posted on 04/11/2023 2:33:24 PM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: NohSpinZone

Probably didn’t carefully read the manual provided with the gun: Don’t put finger on trigger while stuffing it in your pants.


50 posted on 04/11/2023 2:36:21 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Bratch

I’ve been keeping a hammer lying on my patio for 15 years.

I was hoping it would build a deck if I left it alone but I’m beginning to have doubts.


That’s akin to me waiting for my dachshunds to load and unload the dishwasher. I’m starting to think that it’s never going to happen. Of course, I haven’t taught them to do it;the best they’ll do so far, is try to lick the dishes clean while I’m loading it. I guess that’s progress...


51 posted on 04/11/2023 2:44:53 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)Xvg)
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To: OldWarBaby

Carrying “cocked and locked” can be a dangerous circumstance depending on the design of the weapon. That’s why the 1911 has three safety features to prevent negligent discharge. If I was to chose to carry with a chambered round, it would be in a 1911 or a double action revolver.


52 posted on 04/11/2023 2:52:22 PM PDT by Pennsyltucky Boy (bitterly clinging to our constitutional rights in PA)
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To: Boogieman

“...but the barrel would just explode and split into five or six curly pieces of iron”

Yeah I saw that happen on Bugs Bunny.


53 posted on 04/11/2023 3:02:28 PM PDT by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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To: AppyPappy

I agree, first thing I have to do is rack the slide to get a live round to fire. I check it every morning, and every night. I do keep one in the chamber when it is in my car by the ignition. In case I need to assist random thug, Trantifa or bLM.


54 posted on 04/11/2023 3:03:50 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (Repent, turn back to your first Love. If you do well you will be blessed, if not...America 2023)
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To: NohSpinZone

Sig Sauer lists the pull weight of the standard P320 at 6.5 lbs. on their website.

It doesn’t fire by itself.


55 posted on 04/11/2023 3:05:54 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: NohSpinZone

A poltergeist gun....


56 posted on 04/11/2023 3:07:22 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: NohSpinZone

57 posted on 04/11/2023 3:08:16 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Bratch

is there a box of nails with it?

a gun needs bullets, a hammer needs nails.


58 posted on 04/11/2023 3:09:53 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: NohSpinZone
Milwaukee's police union argues its service weapons can fire without a trigger pull. Here's what to know about the lawsuit.
59 posted on 04/11/2023 3:16:06 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: G Larry

> the recall was to resolve an issue with dropping the firearm at a very specific angle, causing the weapon to discharge.

IIRC for the P320 it was because if you moved the trigger a little an internal safety was disengaged and then a bump or jar could release the striker. Thus possibility of discharge without pulling to the trigger break. With a Glock it’s deadly obvious when the trigger safety is off and what the risk is (eg entrainment when holstering, etc), but you have to pull the trigger to get it to fire.

I have a P365 which doesn’t seem to have this issue.


60 posted on 04/11/2023 3:16:56 PM PDT by no-s (Jabonera, urna, jurado, cartucho ... ya sabes cómo va...)
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