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What Happens If DeSantis Takes a Pass on 2024? (are they getting nervous?)
New York Intelligencer ^ | 4/9/23 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 04/10/2023 5:32:16 AM PDT by cotton1706

Trump wins a coronation. The alternative scenario for a 2024 without Ron was nicely articulated in late March by the Bulwark’s Jonathan V. Last:

The next thing that happens is Trump pops higher in both national and early-state polls. That’s because Trump is the second choice of about half of the voters who support DeSantis. Which means that you’d expect Trump to almost immediately add >10 points to his poll numbers, putting him close to the 60 percent mark nationally …

The Republican establishment, which has been pushing DeSantis relentlessly for two years, would freak the eff out.

Last figures that, after casting about wildly for another champion, Establishment Republicans would soon resign themselves to another Trump nomination since “conservative and Republican elites would believe that this really was the last time they’d have to bend over for Trump”:

They would assume that he can’t win and that the actuarial charts will prevent a 2028 Trump campaign. They’d tell themselves that January 7, 2025 will be the first day of the rest of their lives and all they have to do is gut out the Trumpism for a few more months.

Elites aside, a Trump candidacy without a formidable opponent like DeSantis might fall somewhere between his 2016 campaign, when he steadily gained strength against divided opposition, and his unopposed 2020 candidacy as an incumbent. Yes, the expectations game might work against Trump in this scenario, but it’s not as if he couldn’t make a comeback. His entire 2024 candidacy represents a comeback from two impeachments, a general-election defeat, a failed insurrection, and whatever prosecutors can pin on him between now and the end of the 2024 election cycle.

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To: afchief

“ Trump and only Trump in ’24.”

Fantastic! Four more years of Biden then. Ugh!


41 posted on 04/10/2023 7:02:14 AM PDT by Gary from Dayton (Scary unvaccinated American )
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To: JudyinCanada
I don’t see DeSantis winning the general. There’s a large number of MAGA voters that will sit out if Trump is not in the picture.

Of course there’s an even greater number of independent and swing voters who will vote for the Democrat if Trump is in the picture.

42 posted on 04/10/2023 7:13:10 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024. A real conservative.)
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To: Gary from Dayton
Fantastic! Four more years of Biden then. Ugh!

Not just Biden. We can kiss goodbye the House and Senate as well and say hello to thirteen Supreme Court justices.

43 posted on 04/10/2023 7:15:14 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024. A real conservative.)
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To: Drew68

“ Not just Biden. We can kiss goodbye the House and Senate as well and say hello to thirteen Supreme Court justices.”

You are correct


44 posted on 04/10/2023 7:22:23 AM PDT by Gary from Dayton (Scary unvaccinated American )
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To: afchief

I like DeSantis, but the fight is being led by Trump. If we lose this fight, the Republic will be declared Brain Dead.


45 posted on 04/10/2023 7:35:40 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: afchief

—> He is NOT ready.

+1

He may never cut ties with the RINOs.

In which case he will never be ready.

Choose wisely Ron!


46 posted on 04/10/2023 7:39:25 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: cotton1706
What will happen?

Those of us in Florida will have the best Governor ever for 4 more years.

47 posted on 04/10/2023 7:47:55 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: afchief

Wow, he’s accomplished so much since becoming Gov. He clearly understands how to heard the cats in the government so how can you make this statement.

Trump was not ready, evident by his inability to comprehend the workings of the Federal Government. Couple that with the multiple bad choices in personnel. I hear that he’s learned but I seriously doubt that. He is too full of himself to learn jack. And unlike the Only Trumpers, I’ll be voting for him IF he is the top of the ticket but not in the primary.


48 posted on 04/10/2023 7:56:17 AM PDT by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, the lying or the incompetence.)
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To: GAgal

The likely prospect of a POTUS Kamala wil be a huge
vote-loser if 80 yo Biden runs again.

***********

May well be true but if he runs and Kamala is his vp then
it could be a big push among some of the voting groups to
get them elected. I would see it as a big vote enhancer for
them. A lot of non voters in the past would be there to help
push the possibility forward, jmo.


49 posted on 04/10/2023 8:01:02 AM PDT by deport
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To: afchief

Trump is unelectable and has no coattails. DeSantis will win big and bring a lot of Republicans with him.


50 posted on 04/10/2023 8:01:19 AM PDT by RightFighter (Yep)
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To: ohioman

the Republic will be declared Brain Dead.

*********

May well be true but the rules currently allow for
registered voters to make the choice. And voting
rules have changed over time for the residents of
the USA. Remember 1492 forward to today......
White men only
Women became acceptable
Blacks became acceptable
And now just about any one
that wants to sign up is
likely to be accepted.


51 posted on 04/10/2023 8:12:52 AM PDT by deport
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To: afchief

“DeSantis needs to sit out 2024 and wait until 2028. He is NOT ready.”

So say DeSantis sits out 2024 and the ticket is Trump/Lake. Win os lose in the general with this ticket, who will everyone back in 2028 IF its between DeSantis and Lake?

*just thinking out loud*


52 posted on 04/10/2023 8:58:34 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: Owen

Very well said! I agree 100%.


53 posted on 04/10/2023 9:11:57 AM PDT by JoJo354 (We need to get to work, Conservatives!)
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To: Drew68

Considering what he’s done for the country, that is very sad. I can’t imagine anyone disliking someone that much....now if the country had suffered under his presidency, I could see it. But sticking it to your country because you don’t like someone’s style, or because you liked someone else better, well, so much for America being great again.


54 posted on 04/10/2023 9:15:32 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: cotton1706

We need him for ‘28 and ‘32. It will take at LEAST three terms to correct the damage already done by the Biden administration.


55 posted on 04/10/2023 9:40:15 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: cotton1706

Trump will win easily - if we have a fair election. DeSantis would be less likely to have it stolen from him, but only because the Uniparty doesn’t see him as a threat - and with good reason.


56 posted on 04/10/2023 1:22:29 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl

Richard Baris had some fascinating commentary on Wisconsin.

Only Trump can win Wisconsin.

https://rumble.com/v2gpp8q-richard-baris-president-trump-forever-shifted-wisconsins-voter-base.html


57 posted on 04/10/2023 1:31:14 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

That was interesting. Thanks.


58 posted on 04/10/2023 3:08:47 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: cotton1706

desantis signed a constitutional carry law for us floridians...

it goes into effect july 1, 2023...


59 posted on 04/10/2023 3:15:49 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Gary from Dayton

Do you really think FJB won the election?????? The POS CHEATED.

It does not matter who runs in 24...until CHEATING is stopped in ALL States......The election is already OVER.

WAKE UP!!!


60 posted on 04/11/2023 2:46:15 AM PDT by afchief
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