Posted on 04/09/2023 11:30:54 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
Concrete is an incredibly useful and versatile building material on which not only today’s societies, but also the ancient Roman Empire was built. To this day Roman concrete structures can be found in mundane locations such as harbors, but also the Pantheon in Rome, which to this day forms the largest unreinforced concrete dome in existence at 43.3 meters diameter, and is in excellent condition despite being being nearly 1,900 years old.
Even as the Roman Empire fell and receded into what became the Byzantine – also known as the Eastern Roman – Empire and the world around these last remnants of Roman architecture changed and changed again, all of these concrete structures remained despite knowledge of how to construct structures like them being lost to the ages. Perhaps the most astounding thing is that even today our concrete isn’t nearly as durable, despite modern inventions such as reinforcing with rebar.
Reverse-engineering ancient Roman concrete has for decades now been the source of intense study and debate, with a recent paper by Linda M. Seymour and colleagues adding an important clue to the puzzle. Could so-called ‘hot mixing’, with pockets of reactive lime clasts inside the cured concrete provide self-healing properties?
I've always admired Roman engineering, but there is simply no way any craftsman of the time would know how his work would withstand the millennia. Nor could he have relied upon the examples of deeper antiquity, as there was no communication of information from his occupational predecessors. There is a type of survivor bias with which we moderns must contend when evaluating what remains of a (previous) variated subject of study. Structures which remain are remarkable for having survived, while those which did not last are somehow NOT remarkable and not held as evidentiary.
Earlier this year I was in the keys and did the pigeon key tour at the old 7 mile bridge. They said the concrete used on the old bridge will out last the concrete used on the new bridge. That concret recipe from germany for the old bridge could stand up to the salt water but the recipe was lost. They said the old bridge will still be standing when the the new bridge will need to be replaced. Cool stuff.
Exactly so. The stuff that wasn’t extraordinarily good is long gone. That’s exactly why I tend to question the notion that the ancients knew so much and could do so many things better than we can now. They got lucky sometimes, just like people in every era, and the rest of their works went to ruin.
1900 years is a long time. What happened to all of the other Roman concrete?
In ancient times, those who experimented and generally followed their version of the scientific method, tended to keep their research to themselves, and not proclaim it to the Unwashed much less to other possibly competing experimenters. It is disclosure that is a modern invention.
Exactly...
I would be open to the idea that some fairly advanced civilizations did exist before the last ice age, and what we see now is a human resurgence after the glaciers receded.
But nobody is flying UFOs out there... nobody.
thanks great real life recounting....my father was a concrete contractor and I helped him on his jobs many times. That was enough to scare me off wanting to do that in the building trades.
thanks great real life recounting....my father was a concrete contractor and I helped him on his jobs many times. That was enough to scare me off wanting to do that in the building trades.
I did a few years doing aluminum pin & wedge basement forms and concrete. Hard work. Them forms were heavy 4 foot by 8 foot sections.
We build things to sell, not to last.
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Explain that anyone
Yes. Gifts are given......................
Gee, Tex, I thought they were gifted.
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They were as modern then as we are today, but without refrigeration or air conditioning. Imagine.
You are aware that the Roman Empire that “fell” was universally Christian?
I agree. Too many sophisticated tool marks left behind on ancient artifacts. And Egyptian archaeologists that will destroy or hide artifacts and tools that predate Egyptian peoples, that show the Egyptians came upon the artifacts later and their culture were inferior in regards to building. Newer construction was inferior, ancient construction can't be duplicated.
Tool marks show signs of lasers, computer-alignment, diamond drills etc. I believe a cataclysm many thousands of years ago happened world-wide that wiped out knowledge and talented artisans, except for monolithic builds such as the pyramids etc.
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Like our last congress was 88% “Christian”?
#20 they had to have cooling pipes inserted to keep the concrete from cracking plus all them bodies are still encased.... : )
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